User:Dab1001/Talk Archive-2, 11/12/16

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Combat Harnesses
Yeah I say to give it a go on them. It wouldn't hurt to have them created.

I'll also give the navigation a look and probably give it an update on the weekend.

Kind regards, 21:02, October 21, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Battle of Shadow and Light
I'll say lets treat them like how Hemorrhage is like to Forge World since they are on a Forge canvas so a Category:Map Remakes will be included in these pages.

Kind regards, 23:02, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

Halo 5 Guardians dossiers
Dab check the backside of the dossiers thta came with you limited edition of the game if its in french then nevermind and take a look at this-- 00:40, December 15, 2015 (UTC)

Halo 3 Anniversary
Hey Dab,

In our discussion about a potential Halo 3 Anniversary, we decided that it would likely be released as DLC via Halo MCC. However, there is just one problem: wouldn't 343 have announced it at E3?

People like grapes 17:54, January 26, 2016 (UTC)

Hey, Dab. Have some pizza.

RE: Skull infobox
Hey!

Good catch. Sorry, anything that looks over complicated in parser I assumed was part of the old empty parameter & border collapse sign. I'll take a look at it now and migrate some of the old features.

Cheers, 19:27, July 21, 2016 (UTC)


 * Yeah it is pretty annoying right ha? It was a hackathon code so it's not perfect. But if you look at the bottom right for a button which looks like [ ]. That leads to the source editor. Otherwise add &useeditor=source to the end of the url.
 * 21:56, July 21, 2016 (UTC)


 * Right that should all be done. I've taken a look on some pages and it seems to be working fine now :) Thanks for letting me know about the error!
 * 09:21, July 22, 2016 (UTC)

Halo Nation Adminship?
Hey Dab,

We're looking to bring some new admins into the fold to make up for some admin inactivity and to bring in some fresh ideas. You're one of our biggest contributors, you have a good knowledge of the wiki, and seem also to be up to date on the recent changes to the wiki. Personally, I think you'd make a great addition to the team!

Would you be interested in being an admin? There's no pressure of course. If it's not for you or you're too busy then that's absolutely fine, in fact we can always revisit at a later time. Otherwise, if you're up for the task I'll write up your RfA :)

Thanks, 12:38, July 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hey,


 * This is great news. I'll get right on writing up the RfA :) And I hope you enjoyed your holiday!


 * 11:45, August 6, 2016 (UTC)


 * Ok so the RfA is here. There are a few questions and a section to accept the nomination, then I'll pass the onto the other admins to vote :)


 * 11:54, August 6, 2016 (UTC)

Adminship
Hey dude,

Just promoted you following a successful RfA :) We have an admin Skype channel if you fancy joining?

Cheers, 18:46, August 22, 2016 (UTC)

Covenant Logo
The picture you refer to as the logo of the covenant is the one currently in the article. The issue I have with it is that it's a random symbol that the community thought it represented the covenant because it was on some vehicles. what the community failed to notice was the other symbols:

http://www.halopedia.org/images/c/ce/H2A_T26ABanshee.png

http://www.halopedia.org/images/9/9f/HCE-T26BansheeGSA.png

http://www.halopedia.org/images/c/c0/H2A-Spectre.jpg

http://www.halopedia.org/images/0/0c/H2A_T32Ghost.png

http://www.halopedia.org/images/9/9f/HReach_Covenant_Cargo_Pod.jpg

http://www.halopedia.org/images/3/35/H4-Ghost.png

The last of those symbols is seen in the previous images and takes a different style in halo 5 as this:

http://assets2.ignimgs.com/2015/10/05/h5-phantompng-9b2fd5_765w.png

This is the word covenant (written horizontally). It appeared this way when Vale translated Jul's comms in Halo 5 (though it has a fancier background).

http://www.halopedia.org/images/7/79/Covenant_SymbolHorizontal.png

Halo fleet battles gets this when it comes to a Covenant logo:

http://www.halopedia.org/images/7/70/Spartan_Games_Covie_ships.jpg

while the UNSC gets this:

http://pro.bols.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/UNSC-Presentation-Page1.jpg?56750f

Notice that it's the old UNSC isignia which means that they didn't replace anything with post war things.

In the toy replicas of both post war UNSC tech this emblem remains:

https://www.jinx.com/productimage/5449/28/1/1000.jpg

Now take a look at the Covenant items both post war and wartime things:

http://www.halopedia.org/images/7/72/TruthAndReconciliation_replica.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrR9SA4VMAEqMsf.jpg:large

http://www.forbiddenplanet.co.uk/images/_2016_02_/D6342.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn6xWogXYAQUDm4.jpg

Then we go to Sanghelios and we see the Swords of Sanghelios flags:

Now take a look at their logo/symbol.

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/4/49/HaloWaypoint_SwordofSanghelios-Logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20160625205350

it's identical to the flag bar the fancy background

Regarding the UNSC flag, it's basically the insignia on a fancy background

The same situtaion is with the Covenant:

The covenant logo and word is the 3 triangles you saw and their flag is the following:

http://www.halopedia.org/images/9/91/Covenantflag.jpg

If the red circle thing is the logo of the covenant then why does no official media, toy, flag of the last few 16 years ever use it. It's meaning on vehicles was never clear. It''s not present on most vehicles and when it is other symbols are present too. ''

Rise of Sanghelios (talk) 20:21, September 6, 2016 (UTC)

I've been trying to contact an administrator, but they won't respond to me.
Hi, many many months ago I ran into an incident with an administrator that resulted in a ban on me. The ban has passed, although the administrator refused to communicate my ban with me to come to a resolution. I have tried reaching out to the administrator, but no response. I would like to talk to them so I can find some closure in the incident.

Do you think you could help me come into contact with them? Or if they don't wish to contact me, perhaps relay their response? ThanksEditorguy (talk) 22:43, September 6, 2016 (UTC)


 * Responding to you're messages on my page: Alright, I guess knowing that the message has gotten across will give me some closure. Because he didn't respond to me, I wasn't sure if he even read my messages. Thank's for you're efforts, appreciated.Editorguy (talk) 21:32, September 7, 2016 (UTC)

Vehicle images
Hi Dab, I see you uploaded many of the great looking vehicle images like for the variants of the Type-54 Rapid Attack Vehicle. Could you also do that for the M12B Force Application Vehicle? I've added all types but cannot add the images myself, as I really wouldn't know how I would obtain such beautiful renders. Cheers! Kennyannydenny (talk) 11:15, September 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah ok great, thanks! School is a lot more important so I understand the delay. Looking forward to them! :) Kennyannydenny (talk) 12:06, September 27, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Skull Pages
Hi Dab, no probs :) I've been working on improvements on these two articles and will be adding all info for all games. I'll add the gallery as suggested and removed the header. Couldn't agree more with your point of view. I'll move on to Halo Wars and Halo 2: Anniversary skulls after this, making sure for every skull there's an article, and will be done before Halo Wars 2 comes out, which was my main goal. Since it'll probably overlap with skulls from other Halo games. Kennyannydenny (talk) 11:38, October 2, 2016 (UTC)

UNSC Paris and the others
Hi Dab, just a quick question. I was reading some pages, because I really like reading about lore, but something caught my attention. The UNSC Paris and UNSC Redoubtable say the fates of the four ships are unknown, the UNSC Coral Sea page says the ship made it through to Installation 05 and started scanninng the ring, and the UNSC Dusk page says "Her companions, the UNSC Coral Sea, the UNSC Paris, and the UNSC Redoubtable moved further ahead in the slipstream and were lost."

It may also be a language barrier but I'm getting really confused by this. Are their fates unknown? We at least know the Coral Sea made it to Installation 05. And which ships did enter the slipstream? From the UNSC Dusk quote above I understand they other three ships were gone and only the Dusk survived the slipstream? But that would contradict the info stated on the UNSC Coral Sea page...

Mind blown :P [laugh] Kennyannydenny (talk) 16:38, October 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick answer! No unfortunately I only own The Fall of Reach, The Flood and First Strike. And I didn't read them yet, i'm not much of a book reader ;) I'll see if I can find some more info on this, thanks for fixing the page. I understand the sentence a lot more this way :)


 * And off course I will never copy and paste info, plagiarism is always bad, also on Wikipedia's and Wikia's.


 * Btw, on a side note. I was busy with Haloprov on updating the Skull Infobox template to create a way to state TMCC skull multipliers, as you can see on my talk page and his. Haloprov mentioned wanting to make sure the TMCC skull multipliers are not confused with original multipliers, and thus should be named separately. What's your opinion about my edit? Is this the way we want this? The multipliers are now under the headers of that specific game and then clearly stating it is the "TMCC Score Multiplier". Or do we want those to be completely separate and under a new header named "Halo: The Master Chief Collection" with all skull multipliers being found under that header.


 * Haloprov said to me: "Add to the Skull template a TMCC Multiplier tab under the "Skull multiplier" then to games like Halo 3 and such then under a tag like "H3 TMCC Multiplier" and in actual template be "TMMC Score Multiplier". I'm also super sleep deprived right now."


 * I don't exactly know what he means with that, but I thought he ment what I did in the edit I linke above. Anyhow, sorry for the long text, i'd just love the opinion of another admin on this :) Ps. I also asked Haloprov for his opinion about my edit, but he is probably not online yet. I'll stop talking now, Cheers! Kennyannydenny (talk) 17:44, October 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thanks for the help! I've changed it to "Halo: TMCC Score Multiplier". Seems that it isn't too long and fits exactly on the two lines. Now all that's left for me to do is to add all multipliers. Kennyannydenny (talk) 18:14, October 4, 2016 (UTC)

So here I am, bugging you again :P I just noticed something peculiar, Halo 4 is one of the games featuring the Cloud skull, but in the TMCC, Halo 4's Cloud skull is replaced with the Fog skull. So the standalone Halo 4 has the Cloud skull (and no fog) and the TMCC Halo 4 has the Fog skull (and no Cloud). The Cloud skull is obviously correct this way, but how would I mark this situation on the Fog page? Or just make a trivia about it or something? Kennyannydenny (talk) 18:41, October 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. I'll contact him too. Kennyannydenny (talk) 19:07, October 4, 2016 (UTC)

An admin has wrongfully banned a user for adding accurate information
As shown here and here. The page was deleted and the user was presumably banned. However their information was accurate as shown in the citations of the newly added page.

The user was accused of vandalism, fanon, when in truth they had done nothing wrong. The restored page now has citations proving that their information was accurate. The only fault lies with said Admin who failed to do research on the matter before they banned the user, this is a bit concerning seeing as they are in a position of power. If there are any other instances like this when something is assumed fanon due to lack of knowledge/lack of being up to date, I think that such users should be un-banned.

The banned user should be given a formal apology by the admin who banned them. I'm aware that you are not this Admin, perhaps you can help the banned user, as the log's do not reveal who the banned user was. Thank youEditorguy (talk) 19:30, October 16, 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations
Well congratulations Dab for getting made an admin. Seems a lot of things have changed since I was last online. -- 14:48, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Where do I even begin... I got accepted into my schools Clinical Laboratory Sciences program. (out of a pool of 100 or so applicants only 23 were accepted) and it has been stressful. with the added fact that I know see parasites and bacteria all over the place -- 15:26, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Think you could catch me up what needs to be done around here?-- 15:53, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Unlimited Enemies edit
Hello. I see you've reverted my edit concerning the Unlimited enemies page, RE: Halo CE/Keyes. I'd like to ask if you have tested this yourself, as I have and can confirm that the pre-jump flood waves do indeed run out if you kill them long enough.

Rolandoftheeld (talk) 21:03, October 23, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for looking into it.


 * Rolandoftheeld (talk) 21:20, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Regrding the major updates (Covenant Remnants and Covenant Sepratists)
I noticed you accurately updated Covenant Remnant to be Covenant Remants. Good work! Since we are updating the wiki there will be several dead/incorect links with their context changed. Here is what I think we should do to fix this.

Covenant Remant used to always refer to Jul's Covenant. We should change every instance of Covenant Remnant (both linked and text) to Jul 'Madama's Covenat.

Covenant Speratist has slowly been changed to Swords of Sanghelios, however this is incorrect. The Swords of Sanghelios did not exist until after the Covenant died, so after December 11, 2552. The proper name (and article link) for the Covenant Seperatists would be Fleet of Retribution.

Just like changing Covenant Remant's redirects, links, and normal text to J ul 'Madama's Covenant. We should change all instances of Covenant Sepratists to Fleet of Retribution. It get's more complicated as Swords of Sanghelios is used in some casses incorectly.

On pages, If the Swords of Sanghelios are being refered too as such PRIOR to December 11, 2552 (during the war era), they should be renamed and re-linked to the Fleet of Retribution. As the Swords of Sanghelios did not exist until after the war.

Is there any system you admins have to change all text and links into something else? Thanks! Editorguy (talk) 23:48, October 23, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi! I totally agree with your proposal for the Covenant Sepratists page, perhpas theres a way on it's infobox we can include Fleet of Retribution, Xytan's fleet, and the Shipmaster from The Return's fleet. I'd imagine the sepratist's infobox would say it was established on November 3rd 2552 (Great Schism) and dissolved December 11th 2552. As it was after the war ended that the Sangheili splintered and created their various factions.

Editorguy (talk) 01:32, October 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * I've created the page. If there's a more appropriate infobox we could use to place the member fleets and commanders on, I can change it to that instead. Or if you can use your admin powers to create a section for "Fleets" that would be great! The Page: Covenant Separatists Editorguy (talk) 02:29, October 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * Heya! Could you use a bot to replace all text and links saying "Swords of Sanghelios" to "Covenant Separatists" if the article is pre-2553? A lot off battle articles still say "Swords of Sanghelios" instead of "Covenant Separatists". I could change them page by page, but it would be a lot faster to use your bots or admin powers. I don't know how smart your systems are but if they can tell what era a page takes place and can replace "Swords of Sanghelios" with "Covenant Separatists" that would be great. Any pre-2553 use of "Swords of Sanghelios" would be replaced, after 2553, the name "Swords of Sanghelios would be appropriate.


 * Replacing "Covenant Remnant" with "Jul 'Mdama's Covenant" would work too. I think We should make "Covenant Remnant" redirect to "Jul's Covenant" instead of having it redirect to "Covenant Remnants". As most instances we used "Covenant Remnant" in the past it referred to "Jul's Covenant".


 * Thank you very much! Please reply! Editorguy (talk) 02:36, October 26, 2016 (UTC)


 * I think I got them all, might have missed a few. :3 Editorguy (talk) 11:59, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Bot
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:325228#52 Kill him pls

RE:Non-Canon Content and Breaking the Manual of Style
Oh, tahnks for the clearing up. I will make sure that I have enough data before I put a new page in Halo Nation.

HALOPHAN (talk) 19:31, November 12, 2016 (UTC)HALOPHAN

Halo 3: Anniversary
It would make sense to make a Halo 3: Anniversary, right? Halo Fan Ultra 117 (talk) 17:12, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

I think that they will make it, but either as an add-on to MCC, or a separate game, not as an update to Halo 5. Also, my favoriate Halo games are CE and 5. Halo Fan Ultra 117 (talk) 18:09, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

If 343 is keen on anybody not remebering MCC, then what would you think would happen to Halo 2: Anniversary? And What do you think multiplayer would work if 343 were to make H3 Anniversary?

What about campaign? For multiplayer, I think they will do what they did with H2 Anniversary, but like CEA and 2A, they will not do all of the maps. (I wish they did) I think that they will remaster the campaign and then do what they did with H2A. Do you think that they will remaster Forge if they were to make a H3 Anniversary? Halo Fan Ultra 117 (talk) 18:54, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Do you think that there will be a Theater mode? If so, what would they do with it? I think that it would be Multiplayer only if was a modified Halo 5 engine, but Forge and Campiagn along with Multiplayer if it was a modified Halo 3 engine. Also, do you think that the cutscenes would be from different angles for Anniversary than Classic?

Aww... I was looking forward to that... Well, what is your favorite weapon in the Halo games? Mine is definetly the Prophet's Bane from Halo 5: Guardians.

Sorry about not signing, I forgot. The Pistol is pretty strong. About a month ago I asked my brother "How do you use an Assault Rifle in Halo: Combat Evolved?" He said: "You take a Plasma Rifle, shoot to lower the shields, then whip out the Assault Rifle and fire!" I then said: "Nope! You don't use it at all. You just press Y and use only the Pistol!". What is your favoriate vehicle? Mine is the Ghost, if you are good enough, and quick enough, then you just moght be able to take down a Scorpion or two. Halo Fan Ultra 117 (talk) 01:23, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Hello
Sorry about that; I thought it was resolved so I removed my original post. I do still need assistance; I used to run under the account "WolfeSpeider" a few years ago on this wiki, but as I no longer use it (or can even access it) I had an admin back then remove everything, but for some reason he didn't remove the talk page. Would you be able to remove it for me?

Steve Manly (talk) 16:08, November 25, 2016 (UTC)


 * I believe it was Ultra Force that helped me and deleted everything on my profile page; I was going to contact him but I wasn't sure if he frequented this wiki often anymore. Thanks again,


 * Steve Manly (talk) 14:56, November 26, 2016 (UTC)


 * You can't chalk it up as archiving it or removing it for spam/vulgar content? I doubt it would affect much were it to be removed.
 * Steve Manly (talk) 17:11, November 26, 2016 (UTC)


 * If that's the best you can do, then that will work. Thanks again for your help.
 * Steve Manly (talk) 15:31, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

It's all good, just wish Wikia wasn't so uptight. But thank you again for your assistance. --Steve Manly (talk) 21:21, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

If that manages to work out, then that would be fantastic. But in the mean time this will suffice; you've been very helpful. --Steve Manly (talk) 14:45, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

Hi
Hi here, please can you look at Vektors profile? I have recently made a request.

Kind regards, 343 TheGuiltyProphet 14:26, December 7, 2016 (UTC)


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