Talk:Forge World

wow. Look at the photo with the Banshee. The halo ring looks stunning! --KaragouniS 15:22, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
Woah, this is on a Halo! How is that possible? FatalSnipe117 18:04, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah it's possible. They are probably trying to go back to the origional to make it feel like when it was Halo CE

Change
Halo-343, go ahead and change it they are absoloutely one and the same. Que  Sera,  Sera  02:38, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Do not change it. Bungie said in thier panel at Comic-Con and I think mentioned it in the ViDoc that the game would ship with this map, under the name 'Hemorrhage'. I point you to this Kotaku article: http://kotaku.com/5594250/halo-reachs-new-firefight-covenant-mode-forge-world-more-debut-at-comic+con

Here they say it: "Similarly impressive was the new Forge World. Bungie revealed it by showing off Halo: Reach's remake of the map "Blood Gulch," a classic arena now known as "Hemorrhage.""

No change to Forge World but needs to be named properly now. This is a map that will ship with the game. Avalon304 02:42, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Page naming
We don't know if it's actually named "Blood Gulch" in the game. The page title should be "Unnamed Blood Gulch Remake".-- Fluffy Emo Penguin 18:25, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with this. As far as I know, there is no definitive source stating it is Blood Gulch. Bungie also renames remakes and "spiritual successors", so there is next to no chance it will retain this name upon final release. XRoadToDawnX 18:32, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree too. In fact, it looks lot more like coagulation than Blood Gulch, so the Unnamed Blood Gulch remake is better. -- Tiku-Orava 20:26, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Any ideas on what it will be called?

as in : blood gulch>coagulation>valhalla>?????

I dunno, just some stupid ideas. you people got ideas?81.141.161.71 11:11, July 9, 2010 (UTC) (I know these talk pages aren't meant for speculation but they are more organised than the forums XD)
 * Blood mountain
 * Blood valley
 * Asgard
 * I'm guessing it would have to be a word that describes the next step in blood transformation after coagulation: "Fibrinolysis". I'm sure everyone will know how to pronounce this word the instant they look at it ;) It might be an ineffective name because it's uncommonly heard of. Maybe "Rigor Mortis" would work, which would be the next step in the post-death process.
 * A new idea comes to mind. Since this new Blood Gulch has a more revitalized feel with more foliage and less of a dry desert setting, it could be called "Revitalization". Also, since it is obviously a classic, maybe they will go with something more blunt like "Classic", lol.-- Fluffy Emo Penguin 00:35, July 10, 2010
 * (UTC)
 * My vote for Blood Gulch 3.0's name is Waystation/ Way Station, like Grif said in the RvB vid on Bungie day. EDIT: Diggin' around, I found a sci-fi novel by the name of "Way Station" exists. Food for thought... 80.222.44.24 12:29, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * THIS IS CALLED WAYSTATION! SOMEONE CHANGE IT!- aewsome bungieguy
 * No. A Weigh Station is a place where they weigh trucks on highways to make sure that they're not so heavy that they screw up the roads. 24.15.196.201 19:21, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * perhaps if someone just looked closely through the film, they could see where the map name might have shown up? King birdy  06:19, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Let's all remember that Halo:Reach takes place before Halo:CE, so this map may not be named as the next step from coagulation, but the step before blood gulch-maybe something on how the blood startd to flow?Navypilot1046 02:39, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * perhaps if someone just looked closely through the film, they could see where the map name might have shown up? King birdy  06:19, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Let's all remember that Halo:Reach takes place before Halo:CE, so this map may not be named as the next step from coagulation, but the step before blood gulch-maybe something on how the blood startd to flow?Navypilot1046 02:39, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Let's all remember that Halo:Reach takes place before Halo:CE, so this map may not be named as the next step from coagulation, but the step before blood gulch-maybe something on how the blood startd to flow?Navypilot1046 02:39, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Why are you guys talking about Blood Gulch in Forge World??

They Finally Listened...
As a long time member of Bungie.net, I have seen hundreds of threads screaming "BRING BACK TEH GULCH!!!" Many users have been banned, and many threads have been locked. However, when the chances of the classic map being remade hang on by a tiny thread, they do it. They remake the most famous map in Halo History. They remake TEH GULCH!!!

Rejoice, for the Great Journey has begun!!! lulz.

Its not surprising. Bungie has always listened to its fanbase. Alpha Lima Echo Xray Talk 21:31, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

THIS IS CALLED WAYSTATION! SOMEONE CHANGE IT!- aewsome bungieguy

Reflection?
Couldnt this be reflection? Its a giant cube map, and a map that we are already familiar with!

what so there is a giant hologram in this map? :P I doubt it, I have a feeling reflection will be epitaph sized.81.141.161.71 11:17, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it's reflection. Reflection is indoors on Reach, but the remake is outdoors on halo. I think reflection might be a remake of construct. Idiotichaloguy 06:38, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

A final explanation for the bases!
Ever since Halo: CE, the Forerunner objects at each end of the map seem to have served no purpose other than being bases in a gameplay sense. Now I may have the solution to this puzzle. I'd like to note some things first. This remake contains Blood Gulch bases, not Coagulation bases, leading me to believe that it is the same canyon as the original Blood Gulch on Installation 04. Halo: Reach takes place before Halo: CE, so the almost dried river in Halo: Reach could have dried fully in Halo: CE, along with the rest of the canyon. What dried it? I propose that the Forerunner bases are actually some sort of drainage device or some sort of device that could dry the river. Further evidence? Look at the pics of the Halo: Reach Blood Gulch, the bases are placed in the river.-- Fluffy Emo Penguin 05:41, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Erm... your thought processes up to "The base is a drain" seem pretty good... if they wanted to drain the river, they could've dug a hole. There are MUCH simpler ways to remove a body of water than constructing highly-advanced bases designed to do so. Echo-77 06:21, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

What about if the bases create energy while drying the river? -- Tiku-Orava 09:34, July 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * I was thinking that the bases weren't merely put there for the single purpose of draining, because it's true that draining wouldn't require highly-advanced drainage devices (although they aren't as highly-advanced when compared to other Forerunner structures). These bases could be a sort of water-regulation device, draining as well as refilling and regulating the flow of water through the canyon. This would give them a long-term purpose for existing.-- Fluffy Emo Penguin 15:18, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but it cant be in the same location because there's a freakin' giant lake behind blue base. Also, has anyone noticed that the Halo ring is bent?
 * I know that there are a lot of differences between the two, but it could be a case of simply better graphics. Remember, every location in a Halo game is an artist's representation, so somewhere between Halo: CE's graphical capacity and Halo: Reach's graphical capacity, there were changes that are simply "implied" to have been there in the previous game. It's a hard concept to grasp. As for the Halo ring being bent, it could just be the wide angle effect in the Banshee picture. Actually, never mind, it is slanted. Maybe they had that in mind if people were to recreate the screenshot from Halo: CE's box cover...wait a sec, maybe this area is the same place where the boxart is set!-- Fluffy Emo Penguin 21:27, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Or, its not on the ring at all... 98.213.50.140 01:22, July 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * I always assumed the original bases were but the tip of a huge iceberg. Remember, Coagulation was supposed to be a later Blood Gulch, with the bases excavated a little, with an underground section. If someone dug further, I daresay a much larger (Valhalla?) structure would be found. The two bases may even be the tips of the same structure. --  Specops306   Autocrat     Qur'a 'Morhek   05:24, July 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * gets spade* lets see how big the baces are then-nuke-765

Location
The page says that this could possibly be on instalation 4. But it should say Reach. Because every multiplayer map from Halo:Reach is going to be in the campaign. And I don't think the campaign will feature Halo.Toen6 07:40, July 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * What, didn't you see the Halo ring on the background? Last time I checked, Reach didn't have a huge ring in the horizon. As for the story, we'll just have to wait and see. Bungie has stated that the thing about MP maps being pulled from the campaign wasn't "the full story" or something like that. But the map is definitely set on a Halo installation, there's no question of that. --Jugus (Talk  | Contribs ) 12:26, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * That doesn't necessarily mean that all of them will be pulled from campaign. Or who knows? Maybe not all of the story takes place on Reach. Maybe it takes place on an installation too.

Could it be?
Could this be the official version of Hugeass? Sans the LS?--"Histor is written by the victor.History is filled with liars. 17:29, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

No. Hugeass had hangars, and if they made a CE map, it would be "Extinction" or "Snowgrove", which are more popular than Hugeass. This is a Blood Gulch remake. - Cprl. Echo 1 High Resolution Poor Quality 02:00, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Why the Halo is Slanted
I can only think of one reason for the ring being slanted. Its that the map is not located on the Installation at all. I know its not very likely, but that is the only thing that seems possible. Please post your ideas below. --Joem25 23:51, July 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * It could be that the terrain you're on (possibly a whole "continent" on the Halo) is slanted. And it couldn't be on a planet or moon (Basis) if that's what you were thinking. Remember, Burial Mounds was on Basis. This new Blood Gulch looks pretty lively for Basis.-- Fluffy Emo Penguin 17:10, July 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Good thinking, but I don't think that that is the case. The lower portion of the ring that connects to the terrain that your on is normal, but the upper parts start to bend. That scraps both of our theories. I guess it'll remain a mystery. --Joem25 20:28, July 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * My guess is due to your location on the ring along with perspective, it causes a visual bend in the ring. It actually makes more sense than how it was shown in the past, which makes it seem like you are always walking in the very-most center of the ring itself. Though I could be wrong. XRoadToDawnX 21:39, July 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * With that being the case, it wouldn't seem bent or slanted, just off-center. I think the most plausible explanation is that the atmosphere is distorting your view.-- Fluffy Emo Penguin 01:20, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Or Theater mode in Reach lets you tilt the camera. --31stCenturyMatt 03:33, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Forge World
This map is now known as Forge World and is the greatest invention ever!!!

Hemorrhage
Actually "Unnamed Blood Gulch Remake" is called "Hemorrhage", which is then one part of "Forge World". --31stCenturyMatt 03:33, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Source? NarutoROCKS189 05:16, July 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Kotaku, paragraph 6 IGN, paragraph 3 I only wanted to mention it rather than edit the article myself since I haven't seen Bungie state it themselves anywhere. Thanks. --31stCenturyMatt 05:45, July 23, 2010 (UTC)