Talk:Halo 4

It might be Medicant Bais, It would allow them to bring back everything from the flood to possibly some friendly Forrunners who might have survived. Its obviously a technological powerhouse. ReverendMachine 09:06, June 16, 2011 (UTC) New aliens ? SPARTAN--117 18:18, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

GamesMaster issue 247 February 2012 Page 60- GM most wanted-Halo 4 The Chiefs armor has been modified between Halo 3 and 4. There’s a reason for that, says 343- maybe the Chief has been out of that cryotube already. The direction of the new Halo trilogy is the biggest open secret in gaming. Everyone knows how it will play- like Halo; everyone knows where it will be set- on a Forerunner Shield World; and everyone knows who the enemies are- the unstoppable Prometheans. Wait. Who? New Halo developers 343 dropped the first hints about the Prometheans in Halo Anniversary’s new Terminals in the reminiscences of 343 Guilty Spark. “What I wouldn’t give for a company of Prometheans here” says Guilty Spark. “Oh they would most certainly restore order with their trademark lethality, though that would mean he would be here too and without the Librarian around to temper his rage these Reclaimers might prefer the Flood.” ‘He’ is the Didact – the Forerunner’s military leader; the Librarian was his lover, stranded on Earth when the portal between Earth and the Ark was closed. The Shield World of Sigma 7 is where Halo 4 plays out and where Didact must have made a home. Didact once transferred his memories to another body so it’s possible he still lives; it’s equally possible that Didact died millennia ago, but his descendants still inhabit Sigma 7. Either way the UNSC are on Sigma long before the Chief even. Forza 4’s Auto Vista Warthog is a model lifted straight from Halo 4, suggesting an isolated human force is already fighting for their lives on the surface. And if Covenant forces were stranded on the Shield World, who’s to say anyone got the memo about the war being over? . Halo 4 “plays like Halo” Says Creative Director Josh Holmes, “We had to maintain that commitment to the sandbox nature of Halo gameplay making sure we’re empowering the players to make choices in how they approach each problem.” But while Halo 4 will feel like Halo, it won’t look like it. As Halo Art Director Kenneth Scott has it, “It’s a different aspect of Forerunner architecture. The thing that connected people to the first Halo is that mystery. We want the player to feel that initial experience of discovery.” 343 know their Halo 4 has to be perfect and fit into continuity. Anything less and its considered a failure by fans waiting for the new studio to foul up. No pressure! – MICHAEL GAPPER- GM.

Found the above article in a recent issue of the UK game magazine Games Master, looking good for Halo 4. D4RKST0RM99 23:14, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Nothing comfirmed yet, but maybe forerunners are here???

--Drew 18:58, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

"Halo 4 : Return of the forerruners"...

Not to rain on your guys' parade, but all the data on this wiki, and the books, and the video games prove that ALL of the Forerunners have perished through the activation of the Halo Array, in a last resort to destroy the Flood, which for a couple 1000 years worked, but in the end failed...but we picked up where they left off. Point is they dead end of story there is 0% chance of survival from a GALAXY wide bugzapper, zip, nada, impossible.Sorry,Elite Slayer 242 09:39, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

SPARTAN--117 20:09, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

The Arbiter
I hope the Arbiter is gonna be in it! He's my favorite character! --Mega Sean 45 20:10, June 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * I wish, too, wish that The Arbiter is going to be in this game, but unfortunately, he probably might not be because as seen in Halo 3, The Arbiter was teleported to Earth in the frontal section of the frigate. You know what could be better, if Cortana could take form of a real life-sized human and she could help the Chief in Campaign! :P - Commander  RJ-216   (Shortkid808)  Star Union Team Emblem.jpg 01:29, June 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * How would a hologram touch things? Fuzz 19:01, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe they will find a robot body for her Lorchyism23 23:08, June 23, 2011 (UTC)Lorchyism23

The Arbiter better be back. DS2117

The Arbiter may make an appearance, but it is unlikely due to the fact that he is on currently en route to Sangheilios, whereas the Cheif may not even be in the same Galaxy.Verwe 19:09, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Trailer
Anyone else think the trailer was a bit underwhelming? It wasn't bad but I just felt they could of done much, much more. In my opinion it just had terrible pacing and didn't show anything that was really new. Hopefully they can redeem themselves with the next trailer. Aleksandr the Great 00:08, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Im wondering WTH that pistol is looks epic but dosn't make much sense.


 * Nah, not really. Teaser trailers are generally crap. It succeeded in getting me interested, so it did its job. Moozipan Cheese 00:16, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hence the term "teaser." Jedijam91 19:57, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * If you saw Mass Effect 3 before trailer then yes. Ram Dodger 04:01, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * If you saw Mass Effect 3 before trailer then yes. Ram Dodger 04:01, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * If you saw Mass Effect 3 before trailer then yes. Ram Dodger 04:01, June 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * I really hope Master Chief's armor is revised by the final edition because his pelvic guard looks really big in the E3 trailer (-_-&#39;) 21:53, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Forward Unto Dawn
Anyone else notice the section of FUD resembles nothing of what was shown at the end of Halo 3?--Zervziel 00:58, June 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, it could be possible that the Dawn could have been tearing itself apart when it started drifting towards the unknown [Forerunner?] machine/object, causing its shape as seen in the teaser trailer. - Commander  RJ-216   (Shortkid808)  Star Union Team Emblem.jpg 01:18, June 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Gravity. All the gases from wreck meeting the gases in atmosphere cuased the explosion you see in the trailer. My best guess. Ram Dodger 03:54, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Onyx maybe
it could be onyx but i have no proof

Please sign your posts. Anyway, i very highly doubt it's Onyx, since the Halo 3 Legendary Ending planet is intact, whereas Onyx would've already been ripped apart long before then (taking Halo Legends into account, the Halo 3 Legendary Ending takes place at the very least 5 years after the game). And it can't be the Dyson sphere that Halsey, Mendez and the Spartans with them got sent to, since (to paraphrase Halsey) it's really small on the outside, and big on the inside, because of the Forunner's grasp on Slipspace usage. It's undeniably Forunner, possibly even their homeworld, or at the very least another Shield World, but it's not Onyx. Serithi 03:47, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

It kinda looks like Cybertron ... Ram Dodger 04:03, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Transformers Robots in Disguise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuzz 19:03, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

I believe that this could have a high possibility of being Onyx, as a multiplayer campaign could not take place without multiple characters and Onyx is currently home to a multitude of trapped Spartans; to further this notion, Forerunners are very unlikely to aid a seemingly random human in combat, beeing such a seclusive species. This leads me to believe that Master Chief has stubled upon Onyx and will be reunited with Kurt, Blue team, and the rest of the Spartan III's left on Onyx to play in campaign with as additional characters. EggtasticTaco 05:32, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

@EggtasticTaco 'a multiplayer campaign could not take place without multiple characters'. Ahem, Halo 3 is the ONLY Halo game that has two different characters when playing on Co-op, every single other Halo game has two Masterchiefs or Arbiters or Rookies or Noble Six's. Keygenftw 19:05 July 14 2011 (AEST)

I think Onyx is a possibility, because just like Eggtastic Taco said, a campaign can't take place without multiple characters. And the terminals mention Forerunners on Onyx, some people believe that they mean the Sentinels, but nobody has ever searched the entire Shield World (except Halsey, Mendez and the Spartans, but nobody knows what they discovered). And in five years time, the Sentinels could have reproduced enough to make a new planet, (maybe with a little help from other building installations). Because every 6 seconds a new Sentinel, for 5 years is a lot of Sentinels.

The Spartans destroyed the Sentinel factory in Onyx. And don't forget, the Forunners designated humanity as Reclaimers, basically handed the Mantle down to them, so if they cared enough about humans to do that you'd think they'd at least help out if they see them combating the Flood (this is assuming the Forunners still live. But hey, you never know, some of them may have preserved themselves, gone into stasis or something). And i must have missed something, but what do you mean by multiplayer campaign? What are you talking about?

Perhaps some humans escaped the Forerunner's devolution of humanity. The legendary planet only looks sort-of Forerunner to me, and could just as easily be another civilization with similar technology.Verwe 19:13, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

I think he means Co-op, at least that was wat I meant when I talked about the campaign and multiple characters. Except the Halo PC and Halo 2 PC, every Halo game has an Co-op mode, and I don't think they are going to make a one player only campaign. The Forerunnners messed up once, when the degraded Humanity after the Forerunner-Human/San 'Shyuum, while Humanity had just beaten the Flood (be it an other form as in the Halo series) and that way, didn't know how to defeat it properly, and had to destroy all sentient life in the galaxy. Maybe they just didn't want to mess up again, and see if Humanity could beat the Flood again. Kjdeboer 05:58, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'm leaning towards it being Precursor or something we haven't seen yet. Forerunners weren't big on round, they were more about monolithic, and that portal thing isn't very monolithic... Also: Don't know if it's the edge of the planet, or another Ring, but there's a curved line near the border of the screen --Zero-G Mako 16:21, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

@ Kjdeboer, perhaps they'll go back to the Halo 1-2 style of having all the players being Master Chief? Serithi 13:14, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

It is not Onyx, it is Sigma 7. I am still hoping for the return of Red Team (Alice, Douglas, and Jerome) though. If there are any Spartans on, or should I say in Sigma 7, they are either fighting the Forerunners, or are allied with them and have Mark XVII Armor or some other crazy new suit variant with Forerunner Tech.

Armor and abilities
It seems Chief has a partially new armor design along with the ability to fly. Imposter101 06:58, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe his jetpacks only work in space so he never used them? Fuzz 19:04, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Its a thruster pack as seen in Halo 2 so hopefull no amor abilitys.

It is very likely that Master Cheif, like Jorge, modified his armor to his liking. That would explain the differences. The armor appears to be pushed towards EVA or EAA use rather than combat, and also it appears lighter than your standard Mk. VI so he should move somewhat faster. The jetpack appears to be for increased manuverability in EA ops, similar to the mini-jetpack shoulderpeice in Halo: Reach. The unidentified pistol may be a custom job in itself, as it has never been encountered before.Verwe 19:21, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

I WANT ARMOR ABILITIES! Or at least just sprint. Toa manoc

Where was the thruster pack seen in halo 2 on humans? I only remember the elites in space with them.Darb 013 19:52, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

It has to be armor abilities if he had that jetpack on him we would have seen it a lot of times in the cinamatics in Halo 2 & 3 Maybe not a lot in gameplay tho (O) JJdoomkiller 14:32, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

His Mark VI suit may have always had them but they were probably only practical in space as they don't seem to have enough lift power to be used on land. Zero gravity is the best place for them so 343 isn't hurting anyone's baby by revealing them that way. MY problem is with how different the Mark VI looks in the trailer. I hope it matches the Halo 3 Mark VI in the soonest in-engine trailer. There is no excuse for changing the Mark VI armor design from Halo 3. Sprinting should be in the game because we have seen the Master Chief sprint in cut scenes. PP7Silenced 14:33, June 13, 2011

^pretty much what he said about the zero g thrusters they wouldn't be required to be strong at all and as a result could go about being unnoticed (as in, them not having to be big enough go potrude out of the armor). I'm more concerned about the armor. I mean i'm glad there's more plating on the abdomen, but what about the crotch-piece?!?! If i was 117 i'd much prefer having a crotch-piece over more armor on my lower torso ANY day of the week. Sprinting should be in the game regardless, just because a character doesn't sprint in a cutscene doesn' mean they don't have the capacity too. I mean if their normal speed is a steady run, it is fully safe to assume they can run faster unless it is specifically stated otherwise. Mrbear420 20:17, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

The Chief's MJOLNIR mark6 was supposedly upgraded while he was in cryo, also in Glasslands Naomi's Mark7 armor is able to gradually upgrade itself over time, The chiefs armor may have a similar ability possibly added before they travelled through the ark in halo 3 or the armor was simply upgraded by Cortana using schematics she developed herself or by aquireing the details of the mark7 by some other means.D4RKST0RM99 22:50, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Armor Abilities and Deployable Equiptment were cool, but is there any possibility for something completely new? And I hope Master chief can run decently fast, like in Halo CEA cutscenes. You should also be able to communicate with allies with commands like "Get in" or "pile out", using the D-Pad. Also, Halo 3 pyshics werent as good as reach. Mainly grenades. I am excellent with them, but you could not throw them far. CrisperstTh 18:07, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

They should defineately bring back armor abilities but armor lock you only last about 2 seconds so it takes skill to useM1c00l 18:21, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Pistol/Grenade Launcher
I think that the weapon that the chief uses looks more like a grenade launcher, than a pistol. I think a grenade launcher is more likely because he blows a huge hole in the wall and the gun pops open after the shot, and that also happens after you've fired the M319 Individual Grenade Launcher. and a normal pistol wouldn't need that. I'm not sure about this, but what do you guys think? Kjdeboer 13:51, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

It definitely looks like some kind of launcher, but not the Grenade Launcher. It seemed more like a rocket or sticky grenade pistol of some kind. The rocket/grenade seemed to stick to the door Chief blew up, and he reloaded the pistol from the front with another rocket/grenade; characteristics different from the Grenade Launcher. Looks like we've got ourselves a new weapon, which I think I'm going to create a page on.

JohnnyT 02:49, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Created the weapon page, and also linked the topic title to it. I also noticed during the trailer how the Chief slammed the back of the pistol back down, leading me to realize that was likely the detonating mechanism of the grenade.

JohnnyT 03:34, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

New game new weapons isn't that a good thing JJdoomkiller 19:13, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

it strangely looks like a M6 modified to fire grenades and RPGs it might be a new model.(O) JJdoomkiller 14:43, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

It appears to be a downsized and muzzle-loaded version of the grenade launcher in Reach. That would mean that you would have a delayed fire by holding down the trigger. As well, the grenades appear to have less bounce and may be magnetic, so you could possibly use it like C4. It may also be a UNSC counterpart to the "fire and forget" explosive power of the Needler. May be attracted to metal (magnetic). Verwe 00:52, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Without Bungie it won't be the same.
I think that without bungie halo will not be the same. Is it just me? Nserver7 17:15, June 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * There's not really any evidence to support they'll do a bad job yet, so yeah, I think it's just you being cautious. 343 Industries have done pretty well with Halo Waypoint and some of the other Halo stuff they've worked on so far, and I'm sure they'll at least do a decent job on this. Moozipan Cheese 17:44, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * The Call of Duty games are good even though different companines made them. Fuzz 19:06, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * 343 is just ex Bungie/Halo fans! But no it wont be the same, Cortana in Halo 3 is the perfect Cortana (as in Reach it's just better graphic wise than 3) but 4 they've changed her :'( :'( :'( 19:08, June 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * l maybe not we'll see. If you pause at 0:58 it looks like an Afro! :/ Toa manoc


 * Now I would'ent say THAT but maybe well see a big gameplay difference JJdoomkiller 19:08, June 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Talk pages are not fucking forums.
 * ThankyouBriNg iN DeR FLAmeS?! 02:18, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * your a real ass BriNg iN DeR FLAmeS did you know that?
 * I'm pretty sure that 343 industries are a branch off of Bungie, which means that employees from made their own company. If anything in the games is exceedingly different, it's because they changed the engine or another crucial part of the game. If that happens you really can't say it's because it's not Bungie, because it would have been the same people working on the game and they likely would have changed it anyway.Mrbear420 20:22, July 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * No doubt Halo 4 will have different concepts to gameplay and storyline. At first I had my doubts, but 343 Industries is largely made up of former Bungie members. They helped design Reach, and did all of the DLC maps for it as well. Frank O'Conner said that 343 would be focusing on the parts of Halo: CE that made it so great and bringing those traits to Halo 4. And starting off with Halo: CE Anniversary was a great start to get a grip on the concept of the story, gameplay, exploration and curiosity and the feeling of picking up that controller or keyboard and playing the first Halo game.
 * The Used Journalist
 * I'm pretty sure that 343 industries are a branch off of Bungie, which means that employees from made their own company. If anything in the games is exceedingly different, it's because they changed the engine or another crucial part of the game. If that happens you really can't say it's because it's not Bungie, because it would have been the same people working on the game and they likely would have changed it anyway.Mrbear420 20:22, July 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * No doubt Halo 4 will have different concepts to gameplay and storyline. At first I had my doubts, but 343 Industries is largely made up of former Bungie members. They helped design Reach, and did all of the DLC maps for it as well. Frank O'Conner said that 343 would be focusing on the parts of Halo: CE that made it so great and bringing those traits to Halo 4. And starting off with Halo: CE Anniversary was a great start to get a grip on the concept of the story, gameplay, exploration and curiosity and the feeling of picking up that controller or keyboard and playing the first Halo game.
 * The Used Journalist
 * No doubt Halo 4 will have different concepts to gameplay and storyline. At first I had my doubts, but 343 Industries is largely made up of former Bungie members. They helped design Reach, and did all of the DLC maps for it as well. Frank O'Conner said that 343 would be focusing on the parts of Halo: CE that made it so great and bringing those traits to Halo 4. And starting off with Halo: CE Anniversary was a great start to get a grip on the concept of the story, gameplay, exploration and curiosity and the feeling of picking up that controller or keyboard and playing the first Halo game.
 * The Used Journalist

Voice Actors
That cortana does not sound like Jen Taylor... Is it just me? I'm getting worried. Halo wouldnt be the same without jen taylor voice acting it.

Thankfully Steve Downes is MC!!!It'll probably be just a placeholder voice untill they can get her inDanielM4712 10:20, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Will it be a great game
You guys think it will be great or bad I mean come on new halo game! thats great but who knows because they didn't reveal anything on gameplay or mutiplayer yet

Talk pages are not forums.BriNg iN DeR FLAmeS?! 02:18, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

So?anyway what I mean is look what happened to ODST and a lot of people disliked the game so it would stink to wait all this time for halo 4 and have a major disappontment anybody agree if not I don't care if its a talk page and not a forums end of discation.

Naming?
I believe the title "Rocket Pistol" should be changed. This is because there is no known name given to the weapon by a canonical source yet. For as long as we know, the weapon could be scrapped from the real game. The title should be changed to "Unknown Pistol Variant," or something relative.

Graphics style
Is it just me, or does this look like a new animating style for Halo? The textures feel different, more like Halo Wars. Master Chief himself is now an acrobatic ninja, as opposed to the minimal-effort good Darth Vader-esque character we've seen in earlier games. I mean, the old Master chief would see a brute Chieftain and run straight for him (see the 1st Halo 3 TV commercial, where it shows him as a kid) and the Chief in this trailer looks like he would kick off from brute to brute killing on his way --Zero-G Mako 16:15, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Master Cheif probobly modified his armor for extra manuverability in zero gravity. His armor appears lighter as well.Verwe 19:25, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

I think it's a little too early to think there is a new animating style, we've only seen a teaser of little over 1 minute, and in only a small part of that teaser you see the Master Chief moving and doing something. Kjdeboer 16:24, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Kjdeboer. And Master Chief is in Zero Gravity. That may have been a factor in why he was able to move more freely. Sniperteam82308  I Know What the Ladies Like  17:02, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

It's a teaser trailer, theya re all in CGI, so it won't look the same. Also, he is more acrobatic because he's in space. XSpectreGreyX 14:41, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Don't forget, Spartans have had some serious augmentations done to them. A lot stronger, extremely good reflexes, ansd so on. They can be acrobatic, despite the heavy-ass armor they wear, just look at the Halo Legends episode "The Package". With all the training etc. that they've gotten, it's entirely possible they could move like that. Besides, yeah, he's in zero-g here, he's moving around trying to get around all the stuff blowing up and almost slamming into him. Serithi 00:46, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

ok one thing is how are the graphics like halo wars zero dumbass

For a start, sign your posts, it's really not that hard to make a space and then click the "Signature" button up there you know. Secondly, what the hell are you talking about? Serithi 05:44, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Magnum
Begin at 1:05. Master Chief kicks open the door. When Chief glides above a circular thing on the floor it should be around 1:07. He then begins to turn sideways and use his thruster pack. If you pause and look closely you can see a side view of a Magnum. After that, he goes﻿ underneath debris and picks up the Rocket Pistol. Does anybody else see that Magnum? I remember watching a video confirming the existence of hidden clues in the teaser. Should we at least mention it on the Magnum page? Saytun 18:21, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

It makes sense that there's all kinds of guns floating around, a ship like this would have an armory somewhere :P. And it's set after Halo 3, so chances are the Magnum's gonna be around, but hopefully it's as good as the Halo 1 Pistol. Serithi 00:51, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

So, is Johnson going to get a girlfriend in this game?
Listen at 1:25

I'm going to be seriously disappointed if Microsoft doesn't follow through on this. I don't care that he's dead, the prospect of banging Angela Basset should be more than enough to coax him out of the grave.

AchingScaphoid 13:59, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

talk pages are not forums(O) JJdoomkiller 21:52, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Possible alternative to a tunnel/portal
Honestly, the first time i saw the trailer, the construct at the end looked less like a tunnel/portal and more like a giant monitor, or at least its eye, one of the many reasons i was greatly disappointed with this teaser. But the H3 teaser was just as cheesy so, oh well. Any thoughts? --Alexms96 22:28, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I wouldn't say it looks like a giant monitor or that the trailer is disappointing, but on the contrary. I think it was very interesting, and liked it a lot. The fact that the trailer was cheesy is because its a teaser. It isn't a TRUE trailer.--Freedhitman118 21:55, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

More will be revealed at PAX. And it look like a Shield World to me. Ram Dodger 03:27, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Let's see what we can infer from the trailer.

Obviously, the Forward Unto Dawn is moving towards a giant tubed cut inside the Legendary Planet that is portruding a large amount of blue light, made by multiple small beams around it. Now, it's a bit convenient that the frigate is moving directly into it without a pilot. Heck, it would be funny if it wasn't as convenient as that and ran into the planet's surface! Anyway, let's see the possible reasons why it is strangely moving precisely into the tunnel.


 * The least likely suggestion is that it is moving into the tunnel by luck.


 * There is some kind of magnetic or gravitational pull sucking in the Dawn.


 * There are multiple portals drilled into the Forerunner planet. However, no lighted tubes or portals could be seen in the Halo 3 Legendary Ending. This could be because the idea for the tunnel wasn't thought of after Halo 3 was released, or the Dawn was so far away none of these tunnels could be seen.

Now, what is this planet? It is possibly a Forerunner Shield World, supported by the fact entry into the planet seems to be a teleporting device the Forward Unto Dawn was reaching in the trailer, and that is the only known entry into a Shield World.(examined when the group of Spartans and Dr. Halsey entered Onyx's Slipspace Field Pods, technically teleporting devices, and the entrance into the the Unnamed Shield World in Halo:Wars) &quot;Carter out.&quot; 14:08, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

It's definitely at least a Shield World opening up. The description of the portal in Onyx applies to what this one looks like (bah, brain fart, can't think of a better way to make that statement better grammatically). I highly doubt it is Onyx, since the Sentinel Factory there was destroyed (not to mention pretty much the whole damn planet, whereas the one in the trailer is intact), but it's definitely gotta be the portal to a Shield World. Serithi 03:36, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

@Millenium: It's also possible that they were just closed/covered up, or that the lights were turned off. Overall, though, I think it was a single portal with a gravitational pull (like in Halo wars), as a single portal would be easier to defend against flood attack (assuming it's a Forerunner shield world/homeworld), and a single portal construction would be easier to build. Zero-G Mako 19:41, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

I really hope its Onyx. Reach gave you a taste of combat with other SPARTANs, but it would be awesome if it's Chief with Kelly, Frederick, and Linda. I mean it would be the four remaining SPARTAN II's, and thy are all extremely skilled as well i.e. Linda being and extremely adept sniper, Kelly having paramount speed, Fredric being second to Master Chief, and Master Chief himself. It'd be awesomeMrbear420 20:34, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

It's not Onyx. Onyx was pretty much destroyed, whereas the planet seen in the teaser and at the end of Halo 3 is clearly intact, not to mention the Halo 4 concept art that was released show it's nothing like Onyx. It's definitely gotta be a Shield World, since the portal looks just like what the Onyx portal was described as, but it's not Onyx. Serithi 03:52, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be the opening of where the six-some would get out of the shield world? I'm sure that the Forerunners would have wanted to get out somehow, and it would make sense for the forerunners to hide something in a artificial construct that appears to be mostly natural. They did for almost everything else important that they made.Zam138 04:20, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Story Centered
I noticed that since the tagline is "John Wake up" the story is more centered about him being the hero and not you being him cause then it would be "wake up" Cory Jaynes 15:50, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Release date
Amazon.com says It'll be released December 31, 2012.RenegadeWarrior97 02:03, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

NextBox/Xbox 720 Launch?
Many analysts believe the next Xbox will come out in late 2012. If so, could we see the Halo 4 on the Xbox 360 and Xbox 720? It's not rare for a game to be released on two platforms (older gen and newer gen). Halo is considered the killer app for the Xbox. If Microsoft and 343 do it right, it could be a great launch title. Saytun 18:15, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

The Xbox 360 apparantly has a lifespan which will last up until at least 2015, so I doubt we'll see an Xbox '720' or whatever they call it until then. We may yet see another new release of the Xbox 360 like the Xbox 360S, but nobody yet knows.

halo 4 for pc
microsoft customer service says halo 4 is coming out for pc

yay

now i dont have to buy an xbox

Dannyybobo 19:26, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Time setting for Halo 4
It would seem, based on the IGN video about the Halo 4 Warthog being featured in Forza 4, that Halo 4 will be set in 2554, two years after the end of Halo 3 and the Human-Covenant war. It would also appear that while this is a new trilogy and a new story, the UNSC will still be involved somewhat in the story, as denoted by the presence of the Warthog in the game.


 * Thanks. I'll add those to the article.


 * But that conflict with Origins, which occurs in 2556. Moreover, the fact that appears a new Warthog model in 2554 DOESN'T mean that Halo 4 OCCURRED in that year. User:Dr_Mutran


 * It doesn't matter if the date conflicts with Origins. Game canon utterly flattens anything that appears in Halo Legends, which is canonically ambiguous to begin with. Aerid77 06:15, August 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * ^ That doesn't matter, it hasn't been stated that the game takes place in 2554. Unless and until it's stated that it's 2554, we should consider it 2556+, because Legends is still canon (aside from Odd One Out, obviously). Like Dr_Mutran said, just because the new Warthog is from 2554, it doesn't mean the game is set at that time. Serithi 03:25, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, uh-huh, umm, no. The Forward Unto Dawn is a UNSC ship. Therefore, there would be UNSC equipment. Zam138 04:23, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

reclaimer
343 said that the new halo 4 will be the start of the RECLAIMER TRILOGY sorce from xplayRaggedcozy 06:19, August 30, 2011 (UTC) go to http://www.shacknews.com/article/69939/halo-4-begins-reclaimer-trilogy Raggedcozy 14:46, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

That's not exactly a source...


 * Okay, thanks. I'll add it right away.

THE PORTAL STRUCTURE
'''THE FIRST IMAGE IS THE BURIED STRUCTURE AS SEEN IN HALO 3. '''

THE SECOND IMAGE IS THE OBJECT DRAWING THE FRIGADE TOWARDS IT.   

AS YOU SEE BOTH THE STRUCTURES LOOK SIMILAR(THE OPENING).   

FROM THIS I SAY THAT IT MUST BE A FORERUNNER TECHNOLOGY.   


 * No need to shout...    '''

''First off, YOU DON'T NEED TO USE ALLCAPS. Secondly, i think it's pretty well known by now that it's a Forerunner planet (most likely a Shield World). The portal looks exactly like what the portal in Onyx was described as ("steps" like Dante's Inferno, those big "fins" or flaps, etc.), plus the concept art video clearly showed Forerunner architecture. And no, it's not Onyx. --Serithi 12:52, September 19, 2011 (UTC)   '' 

'''It does not look like mainstream Forerunner architecture... but it looks similar.Verwe 19:32, January 21, 2012 (UTC)   '''

'''Sigma 7 is most likely a shield world. Either with forerunners and other species locked up in it, or the flood have complete control, as Penintent Tangent (Spelling? Anyway, monitor of Installation 05 who joined flood could have revealed the shield worlds locations earlier on. Crisperstorm7 18:12, January 23, 2012 (UTC)  '''

2553? Seriously?
Could someone please confirm that 343i stated Halo 4 takes place in 2553? And if it's true, hopefully the game only starts in 2553 and you're not on the Shield World yet, because otherwise that's a retcon of 3 whole years, going by the Halo Legends episode "Origins". Serithi 08:20, October 4, 2011 (UTC)  

But remember Halo Legends isn't considered as... the greatest source of canon. Plus Cortana was the one who said the year right? Well... she was showing signs of rampancy. Sniperteam82308  I Know What the Ladies Like  11:29, October 4, 2011 (UTC)  

Halo Legends is completely canon story-wise (aside from Odd One Out of course), it's just visually it has lots of artistic liberties. As for Cortana, thought she is showing signs of rampancy, i really don't think she's at the point where she can't even tell how long she's been alive. But that's just me. I'm not necessarily complaining, if in Halo 4 you're on the Shield World in by 2553 then so be it, i just don't understand the retcon of such a recent bit of canon (recent compared to Halo: Reach retconning how long it took for Reach to fall, which is understandable seeing as FoR was the first ever book which was 10 years ago). Serithi 07:28, October 5, 2011 (UTC)  

If you read back to an older discussion, I pointed out that game canon is on a much higher tier than Legends canon. Whether or not is was a good decision on the developers' part doesn't really matter, as it seems they don't read the novels or watch Legends anyway. For that matter, it's rather disturbing how little the dev's seems to know about Halo's expanded universe at all. Aerid77 15:21, December 9, 2011 (UTC)  

Reaper?
Mind linking a source about that, JubJub12? Serithi 05:18, October 18, 2011 (UTC)  

What do you think halo 4 will be about?
I want to know what other people think the new enemy willl be i think maby the last Precursors controling Forerunner tech or rampit A.I tech but i do think that a main than is that you will try to find a cure for Cortanas rampancy.......now i want to know what you guys think post a comment below telling me your ideas on what halo 4 will be aboutRaggedcozy 14:45, October 25, 2011 (UTC)  

Pretty sure there's no "cure" for rampancy. All Cortana can do is try to hold on and make it through to metastability (though there's signs she actually may have already done that by the end of Halo 3. She's at least made her way back from rampancy). As for the game, it'll most likely feature the Flood in some capacity, maybe Forerunners (is there any direct proof that every single one is dead? Some could've snuck into the Shield World that the Forward Unto Dawn's wreckage is heading towards, and have been trapped there since). --Serithi 04:45, October 26, 2011 (UTC)  


 * This whole section should be in a blog...--The Songbird 04:53, October 26, 2011 (UTC)  

^ Agreed. --Serithi 05:34, October 27, 2011 (UTC)  

Um is it just me or did no one seem to notice the fact that Master Chief now has a jetpack. His armor doesn't have that nor has he ever been seen with it during Halo 3's ending. Darkcaptain3 20:54, November 13, 2011 (UTC) Darkcaptain3  
 * 1. I'm fairly sure people noticed. 2. Lack of evidence =/= evidence of lack. Plus I don't think much from the teaser is set in stone. -Karl-591 23:22, November 13, 2011 (UTC)  
 * If you look at it, you can see the thing's actually built into the armor. Those things sticking out the armor's back (which then fold out and are used as the thrusters) are in Halo 2 and 3 as well, it's just we haven't seen it used until now, because their size suggests they're zero-gravity thrusters and wouldn't work in normal gravity. Having said that, 343i has said there's an actual story reason for the diffent armor, so it's possible that this is like a Mk. VII armor or something that John gets somewhere along the line. Teasers =/= the exact events in the game. It's possible the teaser's just showing off some of the new things in the game all in one place. Serithi 01:21, November 24, 2011 (UTC)  


 * It is not a jetpack, it's a thruster pack used in space. Crisperstorm7 21:33, December 6, 2011 (UTC)  

Halo Anniversary terminal 10
343 Guilty Spark's dialog in this terminal sujests that the enemy in Halo 4 will be Forerunners,  

Video Transcription:  

Spark: 100,000 years of careful maintenance and diligance,  

Spark: 100,000 years of protecting the galaxie's future!  

Spark: 100,000 years spent fearing our sacrofices, MY sacrofice was in vain  

Spark: And sixteen hours after I finaly made contact,  

Spark: This so-called reclaimer decides to blow it all up,  

Spark: Oh, I am NOT pleased,  

Spark: Just as I finaly discovered our plan to save the galaxy suceeded,  

Spark: The ancient enemy is unleashed once more...  

Spark: Why these reclaimers refuse to fallow protocall is quite mystifing,  

Spark: Destroy MY instilation will they?  

Spark: I shall make new efforts to make contact with the other ones immidiatly,  

Spark: This "Covenant" may be useful to me,  

Spark: ...Although I don't think they fully understand what the claim to seek,  

Spark: Still... it makes no differance to me what they belive,  

Spark: As long as they do what must be done,  

Spark: Hm, I sound like her...  

Spark: Oh but what I would not give to have a single company of Prometheans here right now,  

Spark: Oh they would most certainly restore order with their trademark [viadality?],  

Spark: Although, that would mean HE would have to be here too...  

Spark: ...And withought the Librarian around to temper his rage...  

Spark: Well... these reclaimers might almost perfer the Flood.  


 * Didact Glyph flashes on screen*  


 * Until something solid is confirmed, it's just speculation and shouldn't be included in the article right now.--Mythic. 01:27, November 17, 2011 (UTC)  

'''i think the enemy is the precursors, because the covenenat are defeated and the flood are mostly gone. '''

Nah. The precursors like humans, they hate the forerunners. I'm betting that they'll be forerunners from outside of the galaxy, discovering that the precursor that was released by the Halo testing has told John something galaxy-changing. That'll be how the precursors fit in, either as an active ally in a fight or in an advisory role.Zam138 04:30, December 6, 2011 (UTC)  

Um, what? Precursors have only ever been mentioned once in the Bestiarum, and are theoretical at best. Furthermore, that mention about "finally making contact," Spark was talking about making contact with the humans. As was revealed in Halo 3, humans are a direct descendant of the Forerunners. "You are the child of my Makers. Inheritor of all they left behind. You are Forerunner! But this ring... is mine!" I don't know where this idea of who hates who came from, as the Precursors have only been mentioned once and their affiliations were left undisclosed. The Forerunner machines like Sentinels that attack humans and Covenant alike do so because of their nonadherance to "Protocol" and their intentions to disrupt the Monitor's plans, not because the Forerunners themselves oppose humanity. Aerid77 15:30, December 9, 2011 (UTC)  


 * 'I presume you haven't read Halo: Cryptum by Greg Bear, eh? I'm going to spoil it for you know, so you've been warned. The Forerunners and Reclaimers don't have a "parent-child" view of each other, rather, we fought in a prolonged war against each other thousands of years prior to the first Flood infection of the Milky Way. In the end, the remnants of the former Human interstellar empire were imprinted with geas that allow our species to interact with Forerunner constructs, autonomous systems, and technology without the need for alarm by the remains of the Ecumene. As well, the Precursors were mentioned quite heavily in Cryptum, being noted as the species that created the Forerunners ions ago (and possibly the Reclaimers as well due to our resemblance to our predecessors) and unfortunately, we're almost completely wiped out by their children. The only surviving member of their species, The Timeless One, was locked away under the former Human capital world of Charum-Hakkor. It should be noted that the names "Precursors," "Forerunners," and "Reclaimers" are all terms relating to their relationship with the Mantle, which our species will eventually have to adopt as our birth right.  '
 * It should also be noted that we don't know the normal views of the Precursor race as we've only interacted with the sole survivor for the first time in the Haloverse. That of which we do know is quite clear, the Forerunners initially didn't accept the Precursors as their creators and rightful holder of the Guardian of the Mantle, and through these views, the former went to war against their creators. This is quite similar to how the Humans (and later the San 'Shyuum) went to war against the Forerunners over the dominance of the Mantle prior to the Forerunner-Flood War. However unlike the Precursor War, Humanity was simply moved to one world (that we know of), Erde-Tyrene, with their culture, society, and scientific advancement whittled down to almost nothing.  

I'm gonna take a guess and say you Zam138 haven't read Halo Cryptum,, Let me clarify. Millions of years ago the Precursors existed, they then created the Forerunner and Humans races roughly in their image, they enslaved both and after a while they fought back against their masters wiping out all but one of the Precursors. Before they were defeated the Precursors enacted their revenge using the flood, they knew they couldn't successfully attack the Forerunners directly so they used us as carriers to spread the flood.''' so to be clear the Precursors do not like us, it was their plan all along, the Precursors could return unchallenged and the Forerunners aren't here to stop them, by 2553 all major threats to them including the UNSC and Covenant are severely diminished. '''

If Forerunners are the enemy, and that planet is filled up with all their weapons, I am pretty sure the Chief would be screwed. Crisperstorm7 18:14, January 23, 2012 (UTC)  

halo 4
They said the termanels in halo CEA will have hints to halo 4 can any who has seen all the termanels shed some light on what halo 4 might be??????Raggedcozy 15:39, November 18, 2011 (UTC)  

'Release Date'
When it says Holiday 2012 does that mean January or December? Gundamfate 23:14, December 22, 2011 (UTC)''' Sorry for posting directly under you, this wiki is different than my normal one. Anyways it probably means September 2012, considering thats when most Halos are released.Legionwrex 00:58, December 22, 2011 (UTC) '''

'covanent'
do you think the covanent will return in this trilogy David117 22:37, January 19, 2012 (UTC)david117'''  

Maybe some jackel pirate's or some rouge brutes or elitesM1c00l 18:26, January 28, 2012 (UTC)  '''

'Armor Changes'
With Masterchiefs armor changed a little, and supposedly a storyline behinf it, all I can think is Cortana messed with it while he was asleep... Which might explain why the pelvis gaurd/space diaper is missing... O_O  

So what do you guys think? Maybe she even just repaired it, because it did have some dents in it. Crisperstorm7 17:46, January 23, 2012 (UTC)  

343 Industries said that there is no storyline reason for the armor changes. They said they just wanted to change it because Master Chief has had the same armor since Halo 2. By the way, these talk sections aren't to discuss speculation. Zachmt97 01:01, February 18, 2012 (UTC)  

'Date of the story'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPCP6_KWpAk  

In this interview it states that halo 4 takes place 5 years after halo 3, rather than in the same year.  

Red vs. Blue and Halo 4, Canon?
While I've been watching RVB since I was young and have heard a lot of talk from this. They say RVB is Halo Canon, and so that would mean it will play a big part in Halo 4 mulitplayer since they stated it will have a story of some sorts. So is RVB canon and will it play a huge role in Halo 4's multiplayer?  

Cokeysion 22:53, March 7, 2012 (UTC)Cokeysion4  

RvB is a show based on Halo. And seeing previous multiplayers, it probably won't even play a role in Halo 4.  

'''But at a Halo panel they said that Red vs. Blue was Canon and in season 9 I think, or was it 6, they talked about why the Reds and Blues fight. From what they said in they trailer it seemed like they talk about that in Halo 4's multiplayer. Hence why I am speculating. '''

Cokeysion 01:19, March 8, 2012 (UTC)Cokeysion 

Ancient Evil?
Ancient evil?

what could that mean precursor flood forerunner?

Hells fire 10:36, March 14, 2012 (UTC)Hells fire

Well, at the end of the concept art video there was this flood looking thing. I paused it a few times to make out the view Gundamfate 18:45, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

>> I've seen that "thing" to which you refer, & I have to say that I can't recall seeing anything Flood-like or even organic about its design. There was a shot of what looked like a hip joint, but it appeared to be mechanical in nature, albeit with an organic sense of design. For all we know, it could be a Promethean Warsphinx (which I doubt) or something alien and heretofore unknown. I'm of the opinion that it's something other than the Flood or the Precursors, simply because the Flood's been done for 3 games now & should be left for another day... Humankind isn't ready to be tested yet... As for the Precursors, well, it just stikes me as a little too obvious and formulaic to throw an even OLDER and MORE MYSTERIOUS civilization into the mix when we're still trying to figure out the Forerunners... I mean where does it end? We figure out the Forerunners, then face the Precursors? And after that does the Chief take on the Antecedents, then go on to lay the smackdown on the Primogenitors, after which he'll open up a can of WhupAss™ on the Begetters, followed up, ultimately, by bitch-slapping God Herself? Okay, that's a bit extreme, but it illustrates my point that making a bigger badder badguy out of an even older & more mysterious civilization is kinda hokey. No, my guess is that what we're facing is altogether something else. Holdouts from the ancient Human civilization maybe? It would explain why 343GS logged his all of his entries for the Pillar of Autumn and Cmdr. Keyes under the same timestamp as the mysterious ship that crashed into Intallation 04 some 55,000 or so years ago... Every other terminal entry had it's own timestamp except for those... That has to be significant in some way. It might be a clue as to the identity of the "Ancient Evil"... DJenser 21:54, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

"2D" Radar?
Hi guys,

I just wanted to point out that a number of the so-called "analysis" videos which examine the "First Look" ViDoc have noted that the radar now shows friendlies in green instead of yellow & that they have little arrows above or below the friendly blips denoting their z-axis position relative to the player. I've gone over footage & stills of the multiplayer stuff as well and it appears that this might in fact be correct... I say "might" because it turns out that it's actually a lot harder than I thought to find footage of high enough resolution to tell beyond a doubt, given that the alleged arrows are the same color as the radar blips. I'm also not sure if the same applies to enemies, but it would indicate that the radar isn't actually 2-D, as suggested on the Halo 4 page. If someone has some good shots of the HUD or, better yet, sections of the Multiplayer footage showing the radar, they might be able to confirm or deny this for us. DJenser 14:47, March 17, 2012 (UTC)