Hi Edit

I think ChristineV likes you--she's in the IRC channel. =P RR and CV, sittin' in a tree. K-I-S-S-I-N-G. First comes love, then comes marriage, then comes a baby RR in a baby RR carriage. =D --NOTASTAFF GPT(talk)(eating) 11:45, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

erm, okay? Edit

That was pretty random lol, what spurred that one? Ajax013

More userbox goodness Edit

I apologise if I have misinterpretted the motivation behind this but I noticed that the AVC userboxes had no actual designs. I wasn't sure if this was because they had yet to be produced or it was inkeeping with the cloak and dagger nature of the AVC. I have made two userboxes for this purpose:

Assassin Medal This user is a member of the AVC. Punish from the shadows.

 |id = [[Image:Assassin Medal.gif|47px]]
 |id-c = White
 |info = This user is a member of the AVC. Punish from the shadows.
 |info-c = Black
 |info-fc = White
 |border-c = Black

' This user is a Shock Trooper of the AVC. May vandals cower before you.

 |id = 
 |id-c = White
 |info = This user is a Shock Trooper of the AVC. May vandals cower before you.
 |info-c = Black
 |info-fc = White
 |border-c = Black

Just wondered what you thought about them. Once again I apologise if I've got this wrong. --A Monument to All Your Sins 13:37, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Rocket Launcher Debate Edit

Dear RR, Wasn't sure if you'd had time to read this yet so I've sent it to you. Ok, here we go. The Rocket Launcher wielded in Halo Combat Evolved according to the game manual was the "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher"[1] so this name is Bungie approved. However the in game weapon model clearly shows the marking "M41 MAV/AW" printed above the "correct usage" diagram[2]. This is the source of the naming problem.

In Halo 2 the Rocket Launcher was altered, this we agree on, the main alteration being the new lock on ability. In the both versions of the Halo 2 manual this weapon is once again designated the "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher"[3] and likewise the weapon model again bears the "M41 MAV/AW" marking[4].

On the Rocket Launcher is reffered to only as the "M41 Rocket Launcher" and from the public Beta it appears to be the same variation as that in Combat Evolved. This version has no acronyms after it which has caused many to view it as a new Rocket Launcher type. All of these sources are directly from Bungie.

So the "M41 MAV/AW" section of the name could be the model number of the Rocket Launcher, an overall designation for that class of weapon. Since both homing and non-homing versions of the rocket launcher, from Halo 2 and Halo: Combat Evolved respectively, are called the "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher" perhaps it should all be one section.

But what of the acronyms, what do they mean? Do they help in this debate? Using the website [1] and their military acronym list. The SSM part of "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher" probably refers to it's nature as a Surface-to-Surface-Missile launcher. As for "M41 MAV/AW" could represent Minimum Acceptable Value/Automatic Weapon which would coincide with the launchers nature as a slow firing, automatic weapon (the automated rotation of the missile tubes into firing position).

Since the M41 section is printed on the launcher for the rocket tubes, is it not possible that this is the designation for the launcher? But once the tubes and launcher are combined into an actual offensive weapon it is known as the "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher". Just food for thought.

I am of the conclusion that the M41 and the M19 are infact two designations for the same weapon. As such only one page should exist, or atleast a disambiguation page named "M41 MAV/AW" with a subheading dealing with the "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher" and the homing/non homing variations.

We should take the game manuals to be gospel in this case. Both the Halo and Halo 2 Rocket Launchers are listed as the "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher" in these manuals. Other than in a third-party guidebook (and therefore non-direct Bungie source) this has been the case throughout. At least we should stop referring to the M41 as the Halo 2 Rocket launcher. Since we do not have a copy of Halo 3, by all means leave the Halo 3 Rocket Launcher name as undecided, perhaps it should be placed in its own category as a subheading in the "M19 SSM" Section.

Sorry for the length, :-) Please respond, thanks.


  1. Halo: Combat Evolved Game Manual Pg 19
  2. Halo: Combate Evolved in game model
  3. Halo 2: Game Manual Pg 11 of UNSC version and Pg 14 of Covenant version
  4. Halo 2 In game model and clearly visible on image on Pg 11 of UNSC version of manual and Pg 14 of Covenant version

--A Monument to All Your Sins 14:02, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Re. ReplyEdit

True, I agree with you that the case is not 100% without official word from a Bungie staff member providing evidence for or against. However by the same logic it is incorrect to still have the Halo 2 rocket launcher listed as th 'M41' when in both Halo 2 manuals it is referred to as the 'M19'. --A Monument to All Your Sins 21:05, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I've got the stick Edit

*poke* Back early today =) ChristineTalk 18:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


Your a Christian! Me 2! Seriously, i hav never met many Christians over XBL! COOL! CYA around :-) Iloveenergyswords 21:08, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


This is SPARTAN-387 reporting in. I am back in action and am no longer MIA. I will however be back in cryo from 07.21.07 - 08.01.07. Remember, if you ever need a SPARTAN with an AIE-486H Heavy Machinegun I'll be there, old friend. I'll be there.

SPARTAN-387 CommAIE-486H HMG 23:51, 17 July 2007 (UTC)



SCPO SPARTAN-387 CommAIE-486H HMG 01:09, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Alarm clock Edit

Can you get me up at five (eight in the morning your time) for the rest of the week? I'll set my alarm too, but it nevar wakes me up, so... yeah. =D --NOTASTAFF GPT(talk)(eating) 03:11, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

M19 SSM Evidence Edit

Hey, I've found another proof: Bungie forums Please read (on that page)the post by Rtas Vadumee. Thanks. --Spartan781 Kill Frenzy Medal CommCSV 07:41, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Spartan 1138 has a question Edit

Is it possible to change the name of a userpage? Or cancel out the title on it and add another? Cause I don't want to be known as Spartan 1138 anymore. Also how do you get youtube videos to appear? All I get is code. Please respond on my Spartan 1138 talk page.--Spartan 1138

Firstly, you need to sign in when you're editing, so we know that its really you. Secondly, you can change the title of the page, or even redirect it, but if a new user comes along with that name, you'll have to give it up. If you really want a change, you're better off creating a new account and redirecting your old page to your new one. -- Manticore Fleet Admiral Talk | CSV 09:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Userbox facing deletion Edit

Dear RelentlessRecusant,

I'm sorry if I've caused some trouble here, believe me that was not my intention. One of my userboxes is facing deletion, but I can't find out who by. I sent you and Phil.e some examples of AVC userboxes I created because I had noticed you didn't have any. From the responses I received it seemed to me that I was given the go ahead to place them on the userbox group page. Now they face deletion for "Troll feeds and technically the group does not exist". I made it clear in my userbox message that I wasn't sure if I had misinterpretted the motivation for the userboxes not existing. I was just trying to be helpful and I am truly sorry if I've caused any hassle for people.

Please respond, thanks --A Monument to All Your Sins 10:43, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the reply. The deletion box was put on the template page itself. I guess if you guys have disbanded then there is no need for either userbox, maybe the deletion is valid after all. --A Monument to All Your Sins 12:25, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Edit

Hi, RelentlessRecusant! Thanks for the welcome message! I don't know much info about Halo, but I'll do whatever I can to help. Thanks again! Swannietalk to me 14:47, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

UoH user who deseerves a promtion Edit

User:A Monument to All Your Sins deserves a promtion. He has like 500 edits, most of them UNSC-related,is a pretty new user, has been clogging up the recent changes like crazy. That's I think he should be promoted to corporal or even seargeant.SpartytimeTalk 15:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

He is a member, he's just really new.SpartytimeTalk 16:06, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

better userpage Edit

Hey RR for some reason I decided to check out your user page and I noticed all the sections were really neat and in those boxes.My user page looks crappy and I just want to know how you did that so I can make my page look better.also whats neurosciense?SPARTAN 346 15:56, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Re. Promotion :-D Edit

Dear RelentlessRecusant,

Thankyou so much for the promotion! I'm not sure what I've done to deserve it but thankyou anyway. I shall redouble my efforts in wake of this new responsibility! Once again thanks.

--A Monument to All Your Sins 17:06, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

what's wrong with the forum? Edit

the forum has changed, what happened? HДĿΘFáṆ 19:14, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Wow! Brute Image! Edit

Yes!, RR

I got the image off of a group on facebook.

Here's the link: -- Uneven elephant 19:39, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Latest Halo 3 info Edit

Dear RelentlessRecusant . We received some new Halo 3 information from leaked scans of an upcoming issue of EGM. Since past scans of this nature have proven to be accurate I took the liberty of writing some very small articles pertaining to the new weapons, vehicles and equipment types that it mentioned. I've made it clear in each article that we are awaiting confirmation/validation of the truth of these new findings. I hope that's okay. Here they are:

Please respond, Thanks --A Monument to All Your Sins 19:46, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Call me whatever you want ( as long as it's not too rude :-) ) As far as source links goes, there was one, to a photo site but the pics seem to have been removed :-(. I haven't been able to see 'em yet either. I think there's a pic on the Hornet page courtesy of UnevenElephant but other than that I'm as stuck for luck as you.


Re: The M6C Edit

Hi, RR.

Thanks for your comments regarding my contributions to the M6C Magnum article and its talk page.

The user I've been having an issue with is, who apparently has recently registered under the username Shadowslayer117 (he still edits anonymously, however). I know he probably means well, but his edits are riddled with factual errors as well as poor spelling, grammar, style, etc. In specific is the M6C article in question. As you know, I pointed out that his various claims regarding the range, firepower, accuracy, etc., of the Magnum are just plain wrong. However, he blithely ignores the comments I've left on the article's talk page, and continues to add his erroneous and poorly written commentary. I've had to revert his edits over half a dozen times, and it's really starting to get tiresome. He needs to either shape up or ship out. If you could take care of this situation, I'd be eternally grateful.

BTW, in regards to Xbox Live, my gamertag is posted on my profile page. Feel free to send me a friend request if you'd like.

Rtas Vadumee 00:37, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

your signature Edit

Hey, I saw that in the code of your sig,the code for the color of the "speak" is somewhat wrong to me(you forgot to put the hex before the color code). Same for GPT and Dragonclaws. --Spartan781 Kill Frenzy Medal CommCSV 07:54, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Promo Edit

hey RR, I was looking at members list and saw that i had a promo. but I also saw that there was no second lieutenant. 1: Canm I get one of the certificates and 2: Is there a 2nd Lieutenant anymore? Thanks. If anyone is asking I am busy this week. I have a camp thing that I have to help out with so if I'm not on or anyone asks where is Stryker could you tell them that he is busy? Thanks alot RR. Spartan-010:Stryker My Comm My Battles Master sergeant 10:33, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

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