Copyright images Edit

Are you removing all copyrighted images that are non-promotional Halo 3 images, or just the images taken from magazines? --DEMONSPAWNED 04:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I'm just removing the scans from EGM, because we had a complaint from them about Halopedia using the leaked images (which violates their copyright of course). But I do ask everyone to be careful about copyright when using the wiki. Thanks -- sannse@fandom (talk) 04:56, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Image question Edit

I have a question about the EGM scans. I know that there was a comlaint and that the action is being taken accordingly, but is it ok to upload shots after the magazine hits store shelfs? I'm wondering because I plan on getting it tomarrow and I would like to add some of the pictures if there isn't one already up.--GRAWMCPO Spartan 1138 05:03, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

I would say it would be safest not to. "Fair use" is complicated, but probably these advance images won't fit, and it's certainly safest not to add them as there has been a complaint. But you can link to them if they are on other sites, that's not a problem at all -- sannse@fandom (talk) 05:15, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks for the help once again!--GRAWMCPO Spartan 1138 05:19, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Guess what... Edit

/ME HUGS SANNSE!!! =D --NOTASTAFF GPT(talk)(eating) 05:18, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

/me runs and hides in Taipei ;) -- sannse@fandom (talk) 05:22, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
/me misses sannse in the IRC channel... ='( Meh, Splarka's online, maybeh I can get away with just sidehugging him, since it really isn't a REAL hug... anyway, I gotta ask him how he gets his hair like that, so see ya! --NOTASTAFF GPT(talk)(eating) 05:26, 7 August 2007 (UTC)


Right, thanks for the update. I didn't realise. :) Blue Ninja 10:21, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Manual Images Edit

I saw the Halo 3 Instruction Manual images were reemoved and your edit says it was due to a copyright complaint to wikia. From who? Chieftain Maccus Rally to the Loyalist CauseEnergy-sword 23:04, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot this one! The complaint was from a representative of Microsoft, the copyright holders -- sannse@fandom (talk) 15:54, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Comment Edit

I realise that if I had something to say I should have done it during the testing, but an initial browse using the new skin just left me confused. I'm relieved that customisation is still available, countering some of the blandness I percieved, but the new layout and look seems hard to navigate. The links to talk pages, contributions, and so on don't stand out quite as well, leading so some confusion when I tried to find them. -- Specops306 Autocrat Qur'a 'Morhek 23:36, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Comments are still very welcome! There are likely to be changes as we learn more about how this works in practice over the coming months
You are right that some links are not as prominent. The balance to that is that it means the most vital links are very prominent with less clutter around them. It takes a little while for the experienced user to learn the new placements (or to add the links they want to their "my tools" menu) but then they are the ones able to do that more easily. For the newer users, they can see the buttons they need now, and then learn where others are as they progress. -- Sannse@fandom (help forum | blog) 23:54, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Main Page notice Edit

Already done in your edit with a slight error, fixed it. - O-4 insignia Nìcmávr (Tálk) 17:02, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks :) -- Sannse@fandom (help forum | blog) 19:33, November 10, 2010 (UTC) google cachingEdit

Any ideas why the caching is bad? See here. As you can see, the top result lists it as "Halopedia" and not "Halo Nation".


- O-4 insignia Nìcmávr (Tálk) 22:25, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

That's a Google issue, not something I can help with I'm afraid. I expect it will update at some point -- sannse WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 20:06, March 7, 2011 (UTC)
Actually, it seems to have re-cached already. Some assistance threads estimated 2-3 weeks.-- Forerunner 20:30, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

RE:Redirects Edit

We're cleaning up pages/content, following Halopedia moving off of Wikia (over to [1]). We are no longer the Halopedia - rather, we are now merely a wikia focusing on the Halo community, covering content from Community Maps, Community Fiction (i.e. fan-art, literature), and pretty much everything to do with the community. Now, the only thing it does not focus is canon; we are now to leave that task to folks in Halopedia. And yes, I did just borrow this from Subtank's blog on this - because I'm not exactly familiar with what Halo Nation is,either.

With regards.

[Sometimes, it's all about the glory.] Superintendant-alone [Put your boot up enough alien backside and the corps will pin rows of medals on your chest.][Bad ass, unlocked.]

As I've said before... it is not acceptable to diminish this wiki in favour of a fork. You are welcome to add to content to broaden its scope beyond being just canon, it's not acceptable to remove valid articles. If you don't want to maintain it, then you don't have to of course. But it is not right to remove canon content in order to (let's be frank here) prevent it competing with a fork. If you want a non-complete non-canon wiki, you are welcome to create one, this wiki is not it. We have assumed good faith here, and left admins in place, but either you commit to this wiki as a source for canon (and other) content, or you move on fully and allow this wiki to re-grow a community that will. -- sannse WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 00:42, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
Its not even that. Back when the Oasis issue was occurring, the Wikia held a forum, in which a majority of the community decided to move URLs - thus making Halo.wikia redundant in its former role as a encyclopedia; hence the change in halo.wikias' role. We are not removing articles; we are in the process of consolidating less important existing articles into a single, more manageable page. Major pages will remain as they are; but we are not removing content from this wikia for a reason so petty as to merely to avoid competition with another wiki (one that I frequent and edit myself).
[Sometimes, it's all about the glory.] Superintendant-alone [Put your boot up enough alien backside and the corps will pin rows of medals on your chest.][Bad ass, unlocked.]
This wiki is not redundant, it is the home of Halo information on Wikia, and is used by a large number of visitors and editors each day. You have chosen to put your encyclopedia building efforts elsewhere, that's fair enough. Damaging this wiki is not. I understand that your intentions may be good, but you do not have the right to remove this wiki's content from its remaining and future editors - even if those that chose to fork agreed to do so. -- sannse WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 04:29, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
On behalf of what my colleagues have already said, I should stress that we are not damaging this wiki in whatever way you seemed to have interpreted. I am aware that what we're currently doing might not be within the interest of Wikia but it is necessary for the benefit of the wiki. I should remind you that we are simply redirecting articles of little significance (i.e. gather no or little traffic) in this wiki to a list and not simply removing them from the wiki (i.e. fork); if you recall properly in previous discussions, Nicmavr did raised a point sometime ago that we had intended to do this activity if given the opportunity to improve this wiki by providing it a new identity. It was also brought to your attention beforehand that articles of major significance (i.e. gathers large traffic) would stay as they are (modified to some degree, akin to the styles of Wikipedia than Halopedian). Such example would be Master Chief, Covenant Empire and UNSC.
To compensate with the current loss of articles, we intend to bring in community-focused content (i.e. Community Spotlight maps, Halo: Faith, Reclaimers [webcomics]) into this wiki, as laid out in the Proposal provided in the Halo Nation Discussion thread.
As I said before and I'll say this again, this wiki will improve. However, to do so, it would need to go into an extreme remodelling phase but at the end, it will be a successful wiki and potentially even more than what the previous identity had achieved. It is a slow process, I agree, but at the end, the wiki will benefit from this remodelling. — subtank (7alk) 14:49, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
I'll say it again - you are welcome to add to this wiki, including adding new ideas and sections. You are not welcome to damage the work of more than 46,000 past editors on this wiki because some of you have decided that you prefer the content to be housed elsewhere. The pages that have been redirected are good content, and there is absolutely no problem with them remaining on this site for the benefit of even one future reader or editor.
I was just looking at my contributions, because I thought I had already said this in earlier discussions... but I can't see it at the moment. Possibly I only said it on IRC, directly to Nicmavr maybe? I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough here, or that message didn't get through from Nicmavr. Either way, I am going to revert the redirects now, and am going to say this firmly: either you choose to work with this wiki in it's entirety and without damaging the encyclopedic content in any way - or you choose to leave. Again, you are welcome to create a new wiki without a full encyclopedia area if that's what you prefer to work on. -- sannse WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 16:48, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
I think I was the one you messaged on IRC, but IIRC, you never said we weren't allowed to change the wiki's focus if we had community support. In this case, we had community support to change this wiki from Halopedia to Halo Nation and change it from an encyclopedia to a community site, something that you also gave us the green light to do.
Quite honestly, from our view, this is crossing the lines into staff getting involved with our community matters, and with total respect in the meantime, we don't appreciate it. As for damaging the wiki, the community has given support for many many proposals in the past, including but not limited to mass deletions and redirects of many articles that were considered redundant and its safe to say that the wiki benefited. Readers and editors aren't bothered by where the content is located, they only want good quality which is what we're giving them. If you want our plans for this wiki to halt, we haven't a problem with that but I can assure you that the quality and activity will drop dramatically within a few months without our maintenance. On the other hand, I think that changing its identity to prevent competition with the new site is a good thing; because Halopedia currently has more activity than here as it is, and I really don't see the point of a competition. Why let this wiki be overshadowed by a more active site when we can change it to attract more attention? Take a look at its RecentChanges; the encyclopediatic part of this wiki is almost dead, while 90% of the total activity is social-related (ie. Blog comments, blog creations, talk pages). Think of the activity it could have if it was converted from an encyclopediatic wiki to a social community wiki. Are you really going to prevent that just because we're leaving the canon work to Halopedia? It might not be within Wikia's interests for now but I think I can say that for the long term, it'll get you a good amount of traffic.
I haven't got much else to say, really. Subtank summed everything up for you. I know that we've (from what I can tell) have caused you a deal of frustration over this issue and we apologise for it. PS, we also appreciate the good faith assumption. - O-4 insignia Nìcmávr (Tálk) 19:54, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Nicmavr, quite honestly, this is crossing the line in to forked users damaging a wiki for the benefit of their fork. I know your intentions are good, but the results are the removal of good articles that Wikia readers and editors are using. I understand your perspective on this, but you have a serious conflict of interest here, and I am about ready to step in to protect this wiki from that.

As I said, adding content to widen the scope of this wiki is fine. But if you want to remain an admin on this wiki, then you need to be an admin of this wiki, and not to be making decisions influenced by your work on an alternative. You have a choice, either you agree to maintain the content as you would if you hadn't created a fork, or you give up your admin rights now. -- sannse WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 05:03, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Somewhat enraged with the constant staff interventions. The wiki was doomed and would be on the verge of total mess (quality-wise) if it weren't for our actions to fix the wiki by rebranding it. Of course, that doesn't matter to any Wikia Staff because they don't have a single idea about what the Halo community is about. All that Wikia cares about is the wikis created and, in effect, thriving from the contributions made by volunteers, no?
I will retain my Administrator rights, simply to strike down content copied from Halopedian; I've seen several copied from the wiki into this wiki. I wouldn't rely on anyone else in this wiki or the staff other than the current Administration team and a few special individuals to help me in this task.
Might pull off a Oxford Circus-esque event... would be interesting if someone could do it. Anyway, consider all the remodelling/rebranding/fixing or in your perspective "destroying this wiki" stopped as of now.— subtank (7alk) 21:48, March 28, 2011 (UTC)
Subtank, I have to take that as a resignation. If you are not going to be an admin for this wiki then you should not be an admin. If there is content from Halopedian copied here without attribution then anyone is welcome to tell the active admins here or to email Wikia - we deal with that sort of thing all the time on many wikis. (Obviously, copying from the other wiki with attribution is perfectly OK under the content license)
As for this wiki being doomed, there are still people editing this wiki and has a good chance of reviving if given the chance to do so. -- sannse WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 23:07, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
They have a snowball's chance on the sun... Grizzlei
And I take that as your resignation. Nicmavr has been emailing those editing this wiki to tell them that canon no longer belongs here and they should move to the other wiki - so there's his resignation from adminship here. SPARTAN-118... can you tell me your decision please? -- sannse WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 22:52, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
I would have rather appreciated a message on my talk page, so I actually knew a reply here was addressed at myself, but I'll retain my rights, given I am still active on Wikia. SPARTAN-118 (Talk) (Contributions) 02:42, April 1, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I'm sorry, I should have copied that to your talk page (user talk pages have always had that limitation - threaded conversations or notifications. That really needs fixing). Thanks for your reply -- sannse WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 17:43, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Your post Edit

Is exactly why we need adminstrators to stand up for a wiki. I didn't know about the e-mail business, but if it is true then I am shocked at what thee admins have done. I remember when I didn't have my profile, but just visited. I saw an admin steal another's page by recreating it then deleting the original page. Apparently when I invistigated more I found he has been blocked many times ( more than 100 -_- ). Anyway thank-you for looking out for us. Lt. Colonel Eli Reznov 00:03, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

It's all a difficult situation, but I do believe the wiki can get through it and has a good future ahead of it :) -- sannse WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 17:44, April 1, 2011 (UTC)
Yea, I think they meant that because Halopedia is now an independent website they will redirect uncommon canon. But I don't want to get involve so lets just leave it at that. Lt. Colonel Eli Reznov 04:09, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Admin rights Edit

Thank you Sannse, despite those initial reservations, i've never able to sit idly by while notable wikis fall victim to poor quality edits, vandalism, irresponsible users, etc.; irregardless of what the subject is.


Need a little help Edit

I stumbled acrossthis. Should I be worried ? Lt. Colonel Eli Reznov 01:00, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for the slow reply, I'm mostly away at the moment. I'm afraid I have no idea what that is -- sannse WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 15:35, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Not the intended purpose, but okay. [Sometimes, it's all about the glory.] Superintendant-alone [Put your boot up enough alien backside and the corps will pin rows of medals on your chest.][Bad ass, unlocked.]

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