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About time, my fellow administrators, you locked this page. But however, I would like to point out that come August, Bungie has warned us that, that month would feature alot of more new Halo coverage, mostly concerning the Campaign I guess. So whether or not the article would be back to "Registered users only" protection, it's up to you guys. I rather lean towards the "Admins Only" protection, as Halopedia has way too many idiotic 11 year old editors who can't type even the simplest form of correct grammatic English.

So no offense here. Because I am sick and tired of these people who cannot do a proper edit, thus prompting this article to "Admins only" protection levels for about countless times, and even long-time non-admin editors like me and other more educated and/or civilized, mature non-admin editors are unfortunately unable to edit because of those morons in our community.

Sigh, I wish there would be another protection level in-between "Registered Users only" and "Admins only", which would be Rollback Rights Users only, since we non-admins have proven ourselves worthy of gaining the ability to rollback edits. And Nah, I am too lazy to make a blog about this. :P

Dark Neptune 04:40, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

halo reach,well let's see threre are missle warthog the falcon, spartan threes and some other cool shit halo rech is awsomeCanihazreconz.1 09:30, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Good Job Canihazreconz, you just made yourself look like the type of person who lead to the lock, with your crappy grammar, spelling and your posting in the wrong section, plus it's SPARTAN III or Spartan III, not spartan three, dud. LiLLiPaDDy ~True tears are never seen, only hidden~ 10:32, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Nah, it was all EchostreamFanJosh's fault - starting an edit war where he disregarded administration intervention and continued. Apparently, Firefight appearances don't count as game appearances because Firefight isn't part of the campaign. Notice that "game appearances" means "appearances in general". That's also why we had Col. Holland in - he was in the promotional stuff.-- Forerunner 13:50, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

When will it be unlocked? (If at all) Que Sera, Sera 15:20, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

As of now...August 2nd. That is, if the others can learn to control themselves.   General5 7    talk    contribs    email  

Thanks for edit conflicting me >.< Yeah, 2 August. Just after 4_PM in GMT. Considering that the page's protect log is pretty big and only just got off the protect list when it was re-locked... they're not going to control themselves. We're only keeping the lock-down times low because there's some important Halo: Reach stuff in August. -- Forerunner 15:36, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

The history of Halo: Reach's protection log is terrible. --SPARTAN-125 Cally99117

To be honest, it was everyone's fault, the Administration, the veteran users, the "normal-ies", and the new editors. Nobody dare pin this on any one person as it seems like none of you could come to an agreement or compromise over the past week concerning these matters. With the "Firefight only" template, that's doing quite a lot of assuming on the people who proposed this tag, though while logical, is baseless as we don't know of their inclusion in the campaign as of yet. Any "firefight only" tag added onto the page will be removed on that base alone until the launch of Halo: Reach has occurred. And if your wondering why this page is locked so much, it's because users with normal access don't take the correct steps to ensure that your younger colleagues who are new to editing aren't making mistakes every single day. The Administration cannot be responsible for every single edit made on this wiki, therefore we rely on seasoned editors such as the ones who've posted above to sort these guys out.

This article will remained locked until my colleagues or myself feel as if your capable of being civilized editors and listen to what the Administration has to say on this matter. DO NOT go rogue on this article and assume what your doing is the correct thing to do or at best, assume that you know what the hell your doing. This conversation is over, have a good day ya'll!

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Sources broken

Am I the only one who sees a bunch of broken sources on the page right now? -- SFH 00:43, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

They're not broken. It's an error thst appears on this page every now and then. Tags cease to function. I assume that you also see the infobox cut up, too.-- Forerunner 01:06, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. So, no worries, then? -- SFH 03:18, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

New level names revealed?

The YouTube video "Halo: Reach - names of certains missions revealed" shows an apparent campaign loading screen from ComicCon. The first six levels are listed below:

1. Training
2. Winter Contingency
3. Dark Rain
4. The Death Before the Victory
5. Long Night of Solace (the achievement for level 6 must be related to the new scene added onto the campaign trailer which shows a Covensnt ship being fired upon from the ground)
6. Suspect Behaviour - yes, with a 'U'

The remaing levels do not appear, so I guess haven't been unlocked by player 1.-- Forerunner 06:57, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

It's more than likely a fake. "CaLL Me ZeNy" is known for his absurdly fake, though quality, game menu videos. Take these names with a virus-laden grain of salt. Grizzlei ♥ ツ

Possible. Could you check the video out? I can't get the HTML on my iPod.-- Forerunner 07:18, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I found a link - see here. YouTube marks it as a new video, so it could be from ComicCon. Furthermore, the lack of a 'Mission 1' achievement fits in with the level 'Training'. If it is a fake, this guy began making it just after Friday's BWU.-- Forerunner 07:24, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

In the future, please supply a proper direct link to the video. Anyway, looking at the video... it's too good to be true. The Youtube video looks too perfect/clean, as if it was taken from a capture-card device. By reading off the comments of the video, one can see that it is indeed fake. - 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 11:09, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's fake. The menus in the game are different from the placeholder ones at Comic-Con, meaning he can't have gotten the footage there. And even at that, that footage is captured directly from the source. There's no way he could have gotten away with that with the hundreds of people around him. - Halo-343 (Talk) (Contribs) (Edits) 11:03, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

This is an excerpt from BWU 7/16/10, in which Chris Opdahl, Reach's Campaign Design Lead, discusses missions in the game: "That said, here are some of the acronyms that are likely to show up in a lot of people's favorites:: TotS, LNoS, Ex, NA, LW (and another that would give away too much if I acronym-ized the title)." I see Long Night of Solace, but none of the other abbreviations match what the video tells us. Here's another thing, which Forerunner pointed out. Why would Bungie, an American company, spell behavior as "behaviour" - the Commonwealth spelling? Fake!!! --"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson 16:59, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Confirmed fake. Third fourth and fifth missions are Nightfall, Tip of the Spear and Long Night of Solace respectively. -- The Storm 59 11:56, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

Can we assume that these acronyms were revealed in the Halo: Reach Original Soundtrack page? Some of the tracks appear to share the acronyms. If we assume that this is the case, then the Soundtrack page gives insight to the mission names, and the order of which they appear. --PsychoSunEnder 21:35, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Mission order.

Current known mission order:

1. Winter Contingency

2. ????????

3. Nightfall

4. Tip of the Spear

5. Long Night of Solace

This is mainly speculation, but I have a feeling that Winter Contingency is actually "mission two". It seems strange to me to have released information regarding mission 1, 3, 4 and 5 unless spoilers occur in mission two, which I just can't see happening so early in the game. I would guess that Winter Contingency is actually mission two, and that mission one is something small which just puts the player through his paces. Once again, this is just speculation. ---The Storm 59 12:00, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

And obviously The Fall of Reach will be last, since that is probably what the guy meant by "Giving away too much if he abbreviated it" in a Bungie Weekly update, and really, it's kinda obvious. LiLLiPaDDy ~True tears are never seen, only hidden~ 13:51, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

Not neccesarilly. Why wouldn't he give that away; we already know Reach will fall. Que Sera, Sera 22:13, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

WC must be the second level because in the description on the page it says to find what blocking communications. This usually occurs when the previous level at the end, there was another problem. The first mission's ending should have someone trying to communicate 'someone' however the signal is being blocked.—This unsigned comment is made by Phoenix Marathon (talk • contribs) . Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

It is stated in an article (dont have the source right now, but will link asap), that winter contingency is the first mission, and that nightfall is the third. Apparantly something happens in the seccond mission bungie didn't want to reveal yet. Be back in a seccond with a link.

Found it! That didn't take long! Game Reactor article; First Look: Halo Reach:

"Finally I got to see a small part of a night level. Apparently the third level, as I was first given a glimpse of level one+. Something drastic happens during the second level and Bungie did not want to spoil anything. During the night level I got to see another new feature in Halo: Reach, as you can now pimp your armour." +Level one refers to Winter Contingency.

So now we know that we havent seen the seccond mission. --The Storm 59 10:03, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

As seen on IGN here, the seccond mission of the game occurs in Courtyard and Swordbase: Courtyard is the courtyard of Swordbase. As we know, this is an ONI site, so I can see the potential for spoilers. Im predicting some kind of fun reference. Meeting the cheif? Meeting Halsey? -- The Storm 59 01:42, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe the initials for the level that would give too much away are CH. any halo fan who's read the books knows what that stands for! Que Sera, Sera 02:05, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

VISR Mode Confirmed

In a recent gameplay video that was recorded from Gamescon, the player activiates VISR mode at around 7:46 of this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK78TvPQPyM 121.216.131.231 21:51, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

That's actually Nightvision. Missing Mandible 01:41, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

It's actually VISR. 121.216.131.231 07:07, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

It's night vision, it was confirmed months ago. It has similar properties to VISR, but it's night vision, replacing the flashlight. - Halo-343 (Talk) (Contribs) (Edits) 21:25, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

VISR would have been able to identify between friendlies and enemies. However, S-IIIs were augmented to have natural night vision, so the existence of night vision in Halo: Reach is probably just for gameplay purposes. It can't be canon. --SolidLemonsoup(ahaha) 10:36, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Even though the S-III's have natural night vision, their helmet screens would still need to have a night vision mode. It has to be adjustable or the normal lens that is suited for day battle would let no light through and it would be like putting on a blind fold. It can still be considered canon. Tgor365 21:55, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

New Campaign Mission Order

It seems to me that with the addition of Noble Actual to the wiki as the first mission in Reach, things have gotten a little bit confused. Noble was added as the first mission and Winter Contingency then changed from first to second. So far everything is going all right. Next Nightfall, listed as the third at the time, was updated to list the previous mission as Winter Contingency, and winter Contingency to list Nightfall as the next mission. This is wrong. So wrong. The Correct mission order as we know it thus far goes as so:

1. . Noble Actual
2. . Winter Contingency
3. . ????????
4. . Nightfall
5. . Tip of the Spear
6. . Long Night of Solace

How do I know that we haven't seen the third mission yet? Well it gets a little confusing, so if you trust me, probably best to leave it like that. For those who want to try to prove me wrong... I'll provide my sources, but I can't guarantee they will be in an easy to read, legible fashion. For a good gist of why, just see the old mission order about halfway up this page for reasoning. For a better idea, read below. The problem is that various sources list missions as different numbered missions. The true mission order is what I listed above, but in some cases Winter Contingency has been stated as the first mission as it is the first Playable mission. This is where alot of confusion has come from. I have sources about why we haven't seen the third campaign mission yet. You need to stick with me however, because the sources have made the mixup I just talked about. My first source is a GameReactor.eu article from January - First Look: Halo Reach.

Jonas Mäki (the writer) begins by describing a level he is allowed to preview. From what we have been told by various other sites, it is easy to conclude that this is Winter Contingency.

"Reach is a dead planet. All its 700 million inhabitants are dead. They just don't know it yet. A distant radar station stops working. Reach separatists are thought to be responsible and a UNSC team is sent to investigate. A routine mission, but all communications are lost with the team.

"UNSC reacts by sending a team of Spartan III soldiers, Noble Team, to deal with the rebels. You are one of these soldiers. A young lieutenant with limited experience, who joins the mission as a replacement. At the scene there is an uneasy atmosphere of calm. Everything is deserted. There are plenty of settlements from the time when pioneers settled on Reach about 100 years ago. Cut into the rocks in order to withstand the harsh climate of Reach.

"Everyone is gone. Dead. No signs of life. Something terrible has happened here. It's more than just an angry group of separatist, whose only wish is that UNSC leave their planet alone. This is when the battle begins. It's intense, it's hard to see the enemy as they bounce between walls, jump off roofs and run up the streets."

Much later in the article Mäki is allowed to preview another level. From what we know we can easily determine that this mission is Nightfall.

"Finally I got to see a small part of a night level. Apparently the third level, as I was first given a glimpse of level one. Something drastic happens during the second level and Bungie did not want to spoil anything."

Now, taking into account the inconsistency with level numbering, we are still left with a gap in between these missions. Unfortunate. Right?

Time for a quick recap.

1. Noble Actual : Introductory mission consisting entirely of unplayable cinematics.

2. Winter Contingency : The first playable mission. Known to follow Noble Actual. Spartans investigate suspected insurrectionist activities.

3.

4. Nightfall : Shown above to be the fourth mission. Spartans do some night shit. Word.

5. Tip of the Spear : Known to be the fifth mission simply as it is known to follow Nightfall (I beleive it was revealed in an IGN article, but I'm unsure and unwilling to look for this now as it hardly matters - you trust me right?). Vehicular carnage.

6. Long Night Of Solace : Was known as the fifth mission in the campaign (bungie?), now pushed back to sixth place. Spartans take the fight to orbit.

Follow me? It gets better. What happens in the third mission that might spoil something...? Well I don't know. But I can tell you that the third mission takes place in Courtyard, and presumably Swordbase.Carney has the details at about 3:00. Note that he makes the same mistake as Mäki and countless other reporters. Probably just easier for the developers to think this way because, naturally, Noble Actual would have had no mission designer to speak of. So... What we need to do is make sure that this mission order is maintained and that all related achievements are listed as completing the correct mission. Discuss. -- The Storm 59 14:40, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand why we need to discuss about this... just wait for the game to be released... >.> It skips all the arguing and problems.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 14:48, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

He has a point though. The level order can be changed, IMO. Nightfall isn't the third level, but it's the third playable mission. Changing it is fine by me. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 14:51, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

As long as we don't get into any fighting, it's fine by me...- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 14:53, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Anything we fix now we don't have to deal with fixing when Reach is released and a bunch of new/unregistered people come and edit things. This way, we can be sure that we have at least a few articles down as a good basis for other people to compare with. Also its good to be concise and accurate, even if the game hasn't been released.

And by the way! We can fight if we want to! More like subSINK! ha ha ha ha! =P

http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/08/30/halo-reach-campaign-mode-first-gameplay-video-on-xbox-360/

Yeah...-- The Storm 59 15:22, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Alright has anyone thought that the third mission isNightfall it fots your description The Storm as being in the night and then Long Night of Solace can be fifth again. Im sorry if it was already annonced that Nightfall isn't the third I will admit I didn't do that much reasearch.Sniperteam82308 23:04, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

No. Nightfall is the fourth mission. It doesn't fit with my description if its the third. You didn't even read what I wrote! -- The Storm 59 09:39, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I got official information that the third level's name is Sword Base. Can any administrator edit the Halo Reach page.

Well, I thought that the third level's name was Site Bravo. But I think that is named Sword Base, because it takes place around the base...

Of course it has got to be Sword Base. Now I'm just going off speculation here, which I'm not too sure how speculation dwells here, being new and all, but if anyone were to kindly take the time and look at the Halo Reach Soundtrack page, the track listing reveals the full title of the released acronyms for the soon to be seen mission names (and of course other tracks that are not related to the missions). I shall not list them here. PsychoSunEnder 07:23, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

3rd mission is called "ONI: Sword Base" for those who don't know. Lt. Commander SPARTAN-A110 | [ COM/S ] [ LOG/S ]

Campaign Matchmaking

Taken from Bungie.net Update: 8/20/10

Totally Unrelated Question 4: Can I haz Campaign Matchmaking?

Totally Related Answer: Yes.

.....By that, I am not sure they are talking about Firefight, as that uses the Campaign code and they have seemingly redesigned it to work in Matchmaking for Reach (which is the problem they had in ODST) or they actually mean Campaign and you can play Campaign missions in Matchmaking.--Juubi no Ryuu 03:24, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

They mean Campaign Matchmaking. If they meant Firefight, they would have said they meant Firefight as to avoid confusing readers. They have said numerous times Firefight will be in Matchmaking. Why say it again like this? Also, they were talking about Firefight, then said it was a totally unrelated question. -- The Storm 59 04:45, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Touche. Stupidity on my part, been tired for a while. Still, how and why would they put Campaign Matchmaking? Unless there are certain levels that are just that fun and would be used for score/credits (Then again even Forge gives you credits), though I would just leave Campaign for Co-Op. Matchmaking makes it seem....I don't know, you would want to play Campaign with your friends, that is why Co-Op is there. *Shrugs.* --Juubi no Ryuu 05:08, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Sabre Name

Please update the name of the Sabre on this page to its real name: YSS-1000 Sabre. Que Sera, Sera 01:14, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Please also do so for the Target Locator, which should be H-164 FOM. --Mmm... Jackal Stew 13:52, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

UA Stores

It has been confirmd that GAME, Game staion, gamestop and ebgames will have the UA chest pice so it needs to be changed.--Gamerfreak1995 15:17, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Oddball CD-key codes?

In two episodes of "Xbox News" (which may be Canada only), two sets of 25-characeter CD-keys were displayed during segments on Reach. The first one (I think this happened around August 25/26 episode) featured 15 characters under an image, followed by the remaining 10 in the scroller at the bottom of the video. The second one (September 1/2?) had 10 characters under an image, followed by the remaining 15 in the scroller. They are shown in the way you would expect (e.g., XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-, followed by -XXXXX-XXXXX, or XXXXX-XXXXX- followed by -XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX).

Anyone have any idea what these CD keys are? Entering them into the "Redeem code" box does nothing (invalid code).

TlhIngan 17:47, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Could be Halo PC product codes, input them at Bungie.net and get a special nameplate? - I. Am. Excalibur-117-^{(talk • contribs)} 07:10, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Doubt it - Halo PC codes are usable only once... and it's embedded in the video so it's not like it changes per viewer. TlhIngan 14:53, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Gender Confusion

In Halo Reach campaign, Noble Six can be either male or female. This can be a little troublesome when it comes to creating pages on Halopedia regarding Noble Six. Should we address him as- male/female 'he/she', 'him/her'; male as 'he', 'him', or just 'the player'? --Mmm... Jackal Stew 13:59, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

"He." a la Commander Shepard of Mass Effect, the canon B312 is male. --WhellerNG 06:22, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

When did that get decided? I think SolidLemon has a point - there might not even be a "canon gender" for B312. Are we the ones to decide that? -- Specops306 ^{Autocrat Qur'a 'Morhek} 06:47, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

It was decided on Talk:SPARTAN-B312#Background --WhellerNG 16:48, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

It is grammatically correct to use male pronouns when the gender is unknown... the same applies to Mass Effect. So, I think it is safe to use "he" and leaving the gender as unknown.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 07:49, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

The Canon Sheppard in Mass Effect is male, because Bioware's advertising material referenced a Male Shepard, Bungie did the same thing for B312. --WhellerNG 16:48, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Collectibles?

Has anyone found out wgat the Reach equivalent of a skull is. Bungie said that while there may not be skulls hidden throughout campaign that there would be interesting "things" to find. I was able to find a DataPad on the last level but that was it.

Collectibles?

Has anyone found out what the Reach equivalent of a skull is. Bungie said that while there may not be skulls hidden throughout campaign that there would be interesting "things" to find. I was able to find a DataPad on the last level but that was it.FATGUNN 10:47, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

I believe skulls were left out of this campaign, and that there were other, better hidden Data Pads as well. I think they're the equivalent of the Halo 3 Terminals, but I'm just guessing. -- CMDR MUSHU 03:14, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

I have found one of those Datapads and it wasn't really that hidden(it was laying on shelf in a walkway you are suppose to go thru but I haven't found any other so they must be hidden pretty damn good.Knoxxie 19:00, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Contradictions

After playing through the entire campaign of Reach, I noticed what seemed to be a number of differences from the novel Fall of Reach. I won't name specifics yet to avoid spoilers for those that have not finished. The Halsey and 'her AI' sections for those that know what I'm talking about.

-- Donut THX 1138 ^[Comm] 03:05, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

The entire game was a contradiction to previous Halo Canon. I'm a little split as to which one I support, though I am leaning towards the novel's story more. It seems more...appropriate and believable (as far as the Halo story anyways). It suits as a better prologue, to me anyways. I'm not saying I was disappointed by the game, however. I loved it and all of its features. I just felt the story could have been...stronger. -- CMDR MUSHU 03:14, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

I normally side with the novels myself, but this game and the journal the went along with the more expensive copies did an amazing job filling in where the discrepencies were. And when you consider things like how in the novel Fall of Reach it said no elite were present, and how the number of active Spartan-IIs has been a hot point for so long, maybe the material from the game is for the best. Also,when considering the fact that the author of the first Halo novel helped edit Dr. Halsey's journal, Halo Reach really does answer a great many of long standing issues.Psycho60 20:35, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

The end

Sup. name is Leon35. admin of zoids wikia and big halo fan. just some quick questions

whats the diff between the Legendary and regular endings for this game?

where the **** is Jun? he just left his team to die

why exactly is Bungie no longer going to make Halo games?

I know that Buck and Chief appear in the firefight voices, and Buck is in campeign, but is Chief in the campeign anywhere?

All help is apreciated

--Leon35 03:43, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Not sure about the endings

Jun escorted Dr Halsey to castle base and without him some of the events in halo:first strike would not have happened

Bungie does not want to be owned by Microsoft and halo is Microsoft property

No he is notAdmiralmorris 05:32, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

thanks. if anyone has info on the endings, please leave a message on my talk page--Leon35 10:21, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

wait a sec...Jun wasnt a part of First strike. There is no memtion of him there on this wiki. someone explain please--Leon35 10:39, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

It is possible Jun might be added in with the re-release of First Strike. Spartan 112 10:44, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Well, Jun was only ordered to escort her to CASTLE Base, it's not clear what he did after that, he could've done one of three things: stayed on Reach and died fighting like Noble Six, evacuated with what is left of the UNSC fleet, or stay w/ Halsey for a time, before the appearance of Fred and the others. Col. Snipes450 17:11, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

The legendary "behind the scenes" video made a joke of saying there was going to be a followup with Jun. Now, whether they were joking or not, is unknown. TlhIngan 23:04, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Halo Theme

They say that Halo Theme will not be in this game. Does that include the title screen? Nathan900130 12:17 September 18 2010 (UTC)

Kat-B320

I'm not reading, nor seeing (on the character section) any information on Kat-B320 I'll go ahead and edit...

~Dizzy-DZ56 = DZ Unit-1 19:30, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

new edit: I've linked Kat-B320 with a pr-existing page located here on this wikia

new edit: I didn't realize until reviewing myself there is already an existing link to Kat-B320 via by the name of Catherine-B320 I'm undoing my recent edits It should be noted, many others may make the same mistake I did, I'd suggest revising of Catherine-B320 to the Halo: Reach designated name: Kat-B320 to lessen the confusion. That, or adding (Kat) at the end of Catherine to the current version.

DZ Unit-1 19:24, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Co-op

Does Reach have 4-player local co-op?Arrowhead896 04:49, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Halo 4 as initial game name?

In the trivia section, it said that this game was originally known as Halo 4 according to the ONI Candidate Assessment Programe. Where in the ONI CAP was this mentioned? I would like to see some elaboration pointed out in this source please thanks :) --TrevelyanL85A2 12:45, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Update Trivia?

Should it be added that this is the first game since Halo 1 to feature the Mjolnir Mark V in a Canon appearance? (The Mark V(B) counts as a Variant of the Mark V BTW) John Yautja 16:24, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Release

While editing the article, I saw in the Reception section that release needed to be added in as well. I put it in.

Thephatphilmz 21:19, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Release

While editing the article, I saw in the Reception section that release needed to be added in as well. I put it in.

Thephatphilmz 21:19, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Explosives in Campaign

Dunno where else to stick this, and the Bungie Reach forums are full of fools, so... Is anyone else not getting credits for using explosives in campaign? I've tried grenades, rocket launchers, and plasma launchers, and I get bubkis from them. KickButtUnggoy 21:46, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Banshee Easter Egg

On The Package level there are secret switches to activate and Banshees appear. It looks real, no mods. Watch the video on the link below:

http://www.haloreachplanet.com/2010/09/24/video-secret-switches-on-the-package-unlock-4-banshees/

Would this be able to be put into the Halo Reach Easter Eggs section or not? Xel Vaxum 03:12, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

That is actually a real easter egg Bunge put in there. Theres another that was put in purposely. They are Easter Eggs for all I care about.   SPARTAN-A110    talk    contribs    guestbook   15:21, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I also found out when you flick the switches and get the banshees, the 'leaving the battlefield' barrier and the major death barriers disappear. But only a few remain on the mountain nearby. I wonder why the barriers are gone and wonder if bungie put something outside the playable zone.Xel Vaxum 04:23, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Seven Trivia

While the credits are rolling (when the Pillar is heading towards 04) the Auntie Dot logo-thing is in the background with various shapes being formed and reformed throughtout thre credits. The last shape to be formed (for the breifest second) is the number 7. I wont post this yet, so someone else can comfirm this. Looq 23:39, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

I saw it too. -- CMDR MUSHU 03:41, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Number of Ships in the Advance Fleet

Just ran through the campaign. The advance fleet was comprised of 6 Corvettes and 1 Super carrier, is this worth putting down as a 7 reference? SomethingDifferent 05:47, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Progress partial wipe

This is the second time that my copy of Halo: Reach has acted strange. I started up the game, selected what drive I wanted to use and was ready to play. Suddenly, I'm asked what gender I'd like my SPARTAN to be. "Campaign " reveals that all of my campaign progress has been wiped (only given the option to play the first level) with the exception of the last game I played- The Package. Other than that, my tag was randomised. I still have my points and armour, but I'm told that they're neely unlocked (yellow starred). Has anyone else encountered this error?-- Forerunner 13:34, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

On a related note, my Xbox controllers keep deactivating themselves everytime I press the "fire" button.-- Forerunner 14:43, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Which Story do YOU Support?

What with the obvious deviation in the Halo story line from that of the novel, I'm sure at least some of the fans are in chaos over which one to support. Which one do you prefer to go along with?

I'll start by saying I support the one portrayed in the books instead, but I still loved the game too. -- CMDR MUSHU 03:44, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

What I find interesting is that the developers purport that there is no canon conflict. During the Reach Legendary Commentary, they talk a bit about lining up all the dates in the canon, and then answer that they're happy with how the pieces all came together, but unfortunately they never explain any of the apparent inconsistencies. Even more interesting given that they give several dates like John's testing of Mark v with Cortana as still the same date as before, as per one of their Weekly updates. So there's got to be some sort of answer floating about somewhere, just one that doesn't seem to be yet so obvious to the rest of us, unfortunately.Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 03:55, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

I do find that quite interesting, though some of the conflicts of each story, you must admit, cannot really be resolved. Such as the fact that Cortana was the already-existing guardian of the Forerunner relic in the game, whereas she was the cloned brain of Dr. Halsey in AI form in the book. Also, the story as to how they ended up on the Pillar of Autumn differs too greatly in each story. The only possible explanation I can fathom perhaps has something to do with the Forerunner Crystal, and its space-time warping abilities. If you haven't already read First Strike, though I'm sure you have, check it out and you'll see what I'm talking about. Who knows? I may be completely wrong about there being no explanation. -- CMDR MUSHU 04:45, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Ummm, she wasn't its guardian. She was just at the relic because Halsey had split her into two halves to help her decode the "latchkey" discovery. It's in Halsey's journa. Never saw anything about a Forerunner guardian.Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 04:50, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah the journal clarifies canon. Cortana was just for decoding and transferring the Forerunner data. We just assume the decoding Cortana was a small sliver and the big part was the one in the book. The PoA just needed noble 6 to clear the air so it could take off and pick up John on the docking station in space. The only real canon conflict is the cryo Spartan, which, as an easter egg, has no canon basis. Tgor365 05:00, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, Custodian was the word I was looking for. It just implied to me that she was already there. -- CMDR MUSHU 00:50, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

How do you know it hadn't already picked John 117 up? UpTheDamage

i feel the main problem is that the POA is suppost to have landed on the planet after deploying spartans to pick up cortana half from noble team. However, it makes no sence to land a ship not ment to be used on land (seen by desposable thrusters that had to be used to take off) to pick her up at a shipyard that the covenant surround. Why not just send a few pelicans and meet them half way. For me if the POA just hadnt yet taken off from its refit yet and had all spartans onboard would make more sence. Covenant fleet seen earlier could actually only consist of a dosen or two ships where as the huge fleet that arrives could be later. Well I dont really know but the landing just doesnt seem right to me, even if it does fit the timeline best. VARGR 10:35, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Johnson

When does he appear in Reach? I didn't hear him, or anyone who sounded like him, at all. Is he one of the randomised missions on New Alexandria? -- Specops306 ^{Autocrat Qur'a 'Morhek} 09:06, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Hes a firefight voice, apparently a Firefight voice means that they ACTUALLY appear in the game. John Yautja 10:29, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, he makes a vocal cameo on Exodus. pestilence Phil, pestilence! 02:59, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Oh wait. Excuse me. His voice actor does, but it's not neccesarilly Johnson. . . pestilence Phil, pestilence! 03:03, October 13, 2010 (UTC)