Honestly, sounds like something Lucifer himself would say, if he were ACTUALLY repentent. Just my two cents worth.--Energy Sword 00:18, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
This sounds oddly similar to what Cortana says to MC in the Halo 3 trailer... freeky. --Simaster 03:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
more reason to believe she has gone "Rampent" remember she is one of the greater 'smart' AI, she has a mind of her own, and she actually questioned her belief in the human cause once. -Lt.O'Brien 15:44, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, remember in the Halo 3 E3 trailer you hear what seems to be Gravemind with cortona up until 'i know you'. I have high belief this is Gravemind, just looking at his personality it seems perfect. FallenMind 23:45, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't know... If it was Gravemind then wouldn't it be in the usual 7 syllable lines?--Fragg3d 22:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I come to bring some new development. I heard of this from a friend, so I decided to download Adobe Audition and tried to muck around in the audio file. I took out some of the backdround hum/whatever, and the soundclip sounds a bit better. I think that "I wander the earth, seeking forgiveness for my horrible crimes against God and man." should be "I wander the earth, seeking forgiveness for what my horrible crimes against God have had.". And that "I live to see death, destruction, over the light..." should be "I live to see death, destruction, evil over the light". Please tell me what you can after you listen to it, you can listen to what I made here: http://www.lanowen.com/index.php?q=node/230 (no need to register). Cheers. Lanowen 03:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- It is quite interesting, you might want to make it more clear if possible. -- Demachine
Playing around with pitch and such
I went and cropped the Reversed Message out of Destroyer's Invocation and reversed the whole sequence, then raised the pitch between 150% and 165%. Really got my attention -- it sounds like a Monitor's voice! More evidence that it's Mendicant Bias?
Also, I think the posted transcript of the Dread Intrusion message is wrong. The first two lines sound right, but I think the last two lines should be, "The Earth will fall; strike together/So forth shall go all life." I haven't the faintest idea what that's supposed to mean, but I played around with it a bit in Audition and that's what I came up with. ~Guest
this sounds chillingly familliar to the first cortana letter and her message in the halo 3 E3 trailer, this is the first letter
I have walked the edge of the Abyss. I have governed the unwilling. I have witnessed countless empires break before me. I have seen the most courageous soldiers fall away in fear. [I was there with the Angel at the tomb] I have seen your future. And I have learned. There will be no more Sadness. No more Anger. No more Envy. I HAVE WON. Oh, and your poet Eliot had it all wrong: THIS is the way the world ends. a friend of a friend
this is what she says in the halo 3 trailer
I have defied gods and demons. I am your shield, I am your sword. I know you; your past, your future. This is the way the world ends.
notice the MANY similaritys in the message, the letter, and the trailer. (also thanks to this i cant listen to the normal vertion of the song without geting kind of freeked out) == Scuba7292 22:47, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, a lot of the sounds associated with hidden messages in the halo series are extremely freaky... and that freekyness seems to be continuing in the Iris ARG. ElFroCampeador 07:07, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
I think this means that Cortana is going to do something in Halo 3 that she will regret and will wander alone through time trying to stop it. -- Lordofmonsterisland "Roar to me" 21:57, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Nah I don't think it is necessary to be here considering what is already on there.--Fragg3d 00:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
And I don't see why we need either videos.-Bllasae
I've listened over and over again to and I heard this "The Earth seeking against the relem,I see the sky I have walked among men and angels for three thousand years. Time has no end... no beginning... no purpose. I wander the earth, seeking forgiveness for my horrible crimes against God and man. I live to see death, destruction, over the light, but the light cannot be extinguished. I live in a prison of my own demise. I am lost in time..Envy Skull Effects 22:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- I listened to it, (feakin' creepy, esspseailly when your listining to it in the dark), and it really sounds like wht you said.
- Yeah I'm going to play Halo 3 alot tonight and try avoid getting nightmares. Why does bungie like creepy plot secerts?--Darth Scott 05:44, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- In the video, the last two lines of the transcript are not mentioned. This could be what is meant by "the transcript is still wrong". Jack-118
- I do not know if this means anything, but... John-117 is observed for the Spartan-II program by Dr. Halsey and Keyes when he is six years old in the year 2517. This would make his year of birth either 2510 or 2511 (his entry on this wikia has it at 2511, I don't know if this is stated anywhere or if it is concluded by the year he was observed for the program, if he was born after September he was born in 2510). Assuming it's 2510, he is born precisely 3,000 years after the Battle of Marathon, which occurred in 490 B.C. Even if it's 2511, that makes it 3,001 years. Marathon also occured in the month of September. Aiakides 08:15, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- You know post was somewhat off topic but I think you found another connection between marathon and halo. But I agree don't think master chief is the one who said this.--Darth Scott 05:50, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
What i think it could be
I have walked among men and angels over three thousand years, only time has no end... no beginning... no purpose. I wander the earth, seeking forgiveness for my old crimes against god, and man. I live to see death and destruction, over the light, but the light cannot be extinguished. I live in a prison of my own demise, I am lost in time.
Sounds close enough...I do not believe its Gravemind, however. Gravemind's voice is slower and deeper. This sounds more like the Chief, but since the Chief wasn't around 3,000 years ago, it seems to be a Forerunner. The Chief and The Forerunner might share the same vocal patterns, which could explain why Guilty Spark recognizes MC as a Reclaimer. 5748 PrimaryCipher 02:36, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
My thoughts on it all
Possibly, Gravemind could have visited Earth before, years and years in the past, and screwed it up before leaving to Delta Halo. It could be that Gravemind got there FROM Earth because of the Forerunner. As some people have thought that the Forerunner were the predecessor to Man, Gravemind might think that his 'crimes' against the Forerunner are 'crimes' against Man.
And also, it doesn't have to fit Gravemind's normal way of speaking for it to be him. Bungie placed this in there as something to keep people going until Halo 3 and everything is HOPEFULLY explained. There was the ilovebees.com thing before the release of one of the other games, so this is a little promo thing.
I think that it's Gravemind because of my theroy on Gravemind, about him being a Forerunner (or a group of them) who's job was to recover the others from their shield worlds (since it doesn't seem like there is a way out from the inside), and reteach the ones in the Ark about the history (as the activation might have erased their memories, or devolved them into humans (making the Forerunners either humans or the evolved form)), but the shielding device malfuncutioned, and he/she/they mixed with the Flood. The crimes would be dooming the population, as it (Gravemind) failed, or because the Halos didn't work, and walking the Earth 3000 years and seeing the battles would be because it couldn't die, or because no one finding it. This might explain why it is a different speaking for it, because this is in his mind, and the normal way might be a collective voice of all of the parts. My theroy's probably wrong, though, I just got bored and decided to write this down here. Sorry for spelling and grammar mistakes. -Jesse-
The line about prison sounds like "a prison of my own device." "My own demise" doesn't sound right... Kriegsaffe No. 9 05:13, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
- I agree, but based more on grammer than sound. It sounds like "Demise" but "Device" makes more sense in the sentence, and is close enough to be a misiterperetation by fans. Of course, the last thing we want is an edit war, but if no one has any counter-arguments, I'll change it in a week or so. Din's Fire 997 00:21, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
From the current version: "This sound clip has been around for a while, and it has been recognized by long time Bungie fans. This was said by the AI Durandal in Bungie's Marathon series, after his conflicts with freeing the S'pht in order to try and help the Pfhor, and he realized the wrong he had done." Who wrote this? Is it a fragment of a longer argument and the rest was deleted? It makes no sense currently. --18.104.22.168 04:31, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
- I decided to delete it without going through the history to find out how it was made. --22.214.171.124 16:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
could it be 343 Guilty Spark?
He has been around for all of that time, and why is his name guilty spark? I have read here and in other places that people think that he could've triggered a firing of halo early before the forerunners could escape to the shield world of Onyx. I know it doesnt sound like him but who knows....
Only Humans and Forerunners could activate the Halos. Guilty Spark's name could come from the fact that the Forerunner knew that they would regret (guilty) their actions (spark), namely activating the Halos. --126.96.36.199 12:45, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
No, we know he didn't activate any Halos because he needed a "reclaimer" to get the index from the library, which Master Chief could only get, and we know that the other reclaimer didn't make it because apparently you can find the dead guy in the library, otherwise, the Monitors of all the Halos would have destroyed all humanity, and the Flood, because that's what the Monitor tried to do in Halo 1, for example.-BllasaeBllasae 00:49, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I believe it's Mendicant Bias.
...I have walked among men and angels for three thousand years. Time has no end... no beginning... no purpose.
(It's reasonable the Prophets may have found the Dreadnought around 3,000 years ago)
I walk the earth, seeking forgiveness for my horrible crimes against God and man.
(He regrets what he did against the forerunners)
I live to see death, destruction, end, over the light, but the light cannot be extinguished.
(He's powerless against the destruction of reclaimers)
I live imprisoned in my own demise.
(He's trapped in the Dreadnought)
I am lost in time...
Royce 19:47, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- I am lost in time...
This could be a reference to how Mendicant Bias was stuck with listening to the Prophets lies(lost) for 3,000 years (time). Could this be mentioned in the article?--Darth Scott 08:05, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
This actually makes the most sense on the matter of the Halo 2 one.
- I have the weird feeling that these messages are meant to be said by somebody beyond Cortana or Chief or Gravemind, and even if it is the most possible not even Mendicant Bias. Maybe even beyond the Forerunners. I mean that something demigod said this messages and I think that these messages will have somehow divine meaning. Something really old might have said this. And I wouldn't be suprised - Bungie created Forerunners, they named Chief John-117 (which has biblical meaning). Not even to mention that Bungie came with these messages said by Cortana and those messages from the OST. That's my opinion. JirkaV 0:37, 24 February 2008
I have done some revisions to the page; organizing, removing links to videos, editing the transcripts. Hope that helps. I won't remove the clean-up header, however. -Kukulza
Lines in Dread Intrusion/Gravemind REVEALED...maybe...
While the first and third lines seemed to have been decoded, the second and fourth lines are still unintelligible, although when you listen to the second line, it sounds like "Humans and Elites will die,", and when to the last line, it sounds like, "So fall/forth shall all of life.", so if you sum it up, you get:
"Side by side, we march as one,
Humans and Elites will die,
The Earth shall fall if we strike together,
So fall/forth shall all of life."
Am I only one who noticed this? - Guest
I reverted this article to a slightly better version, which includes the message from Halo 2. However, I still think this article needs a bit of work, and if anyone can help with that, it would be appreciated.--188.8.131.52 18:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I have a question
I was listening to the reversed message and noticed that the text here is not what I hear when I listen to the message. I think I hear it say angels for several thousand years Chasenuva1 18:12, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
"The exact person who is speaking is unknown. Just like the Destroyer's Invocation Message, there are many possibilities about who it could be. The likely candidates are the Gravemind and the Prophet of Truth since only Elites and Humans are mentioned."
Perhaps it is fallen Elites who fought beside the Arbiter with the humans. To me the voices sound as if they are trying to replicate the vocals of elites, while still trying to sound like flood. The phrase seems to be spoken honorably, a sign that elites are speaking it. This is just my thought however. --Kebath 'Holoree 19:49, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Just some quick things to remember before assuming a speaker of these messages.
- The Gravemind speaks in heptameter, or a multiple of 7 syllables in each phrase. Check the syllables and those of other possible words, as the exact transcript isn't certain.
- Changing the pitch of the words can make the voice sound like practically anyone. Not dissing those who speed it up or slow it down but I could sound like Paris Hilton if you changed my voice enough.
- Time is different for different factions. An A.I. has a distorted sense of time due to their processing power so "3000 years" could in fact be only minutes.
Please post your own reminder things!
Now just some of my theories: The same passage I cited above could be an AI (as mentioned b4)or perhaps the Marine in the novel The Flood who was still aware of his actions while being infected due to a compromised Infection Form. It is possible that the same phenomena occured elsewhere. Or maybe a combination of both; maybe an AI that surrendered to the Gravemind (Mecindant Bias?)retained awareness? Please reply with theories of your own. Gilgamesh the usurper 00:11, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
I Believe it's Gravemind
I have just started playing Halo games but ever since I heard this I've played more often and I belive the only person it can be is Gravemind. His voice matches the music almost exact. I'm not sure yet who this Mecindant Bias is yet but from what I just read he is a Forunner AI. I don't belive it's a Prophet, Guilty Spark, or any other living being becuase after he said "Elites and Humans will die" he says "So forth will all of life" so unless they want to die too it can't be them. Lastly it can't be Mecindant Bias or Cortana because they are AI and if all life where to die they would have nothing left so they would have no reason to exist. Gravemind is the only person it can be for he is not exactly alive and he does hold a grudge to all of life.HaloGameOver 03:13, February 9, 2010 (UTC)HaloGameOver
A late, alternate interpretation of the Dread Intrusion message
While I am several years late to do this, I have been analysing the reversed message in Dread Intrusion and comparing it to the transcript on this page. To me - although this may not be the case for anyone else - the actual message seems to differ from the transcript:
The first line seems to be accurate.
The second line: What is transcribed as "humans" sounds more to me like "children", and "Elites" sounds more like "please". The closest I can fathom using those words is something along the lines of "children said 'please survive'", which, in practice, doesn't make much sense. The first word also sounds like it may be a word ending in "-erous" or "erus", but I can't imagine what that could be. The pronunciation of the last word(s) (transcribed as "will die") doesn't seem to accurately reflect "will die" - the transition between the two syllables is too short for two seperate words in most cases (those in which the second word begins with a hard consonant), and so it seems that it may be something like "still fight" (I cannot find a sentence fitting this with "children" and "please") or something closer to "survive". With that in mind with my first interpretation, this line would most likely be refering to the "children", or at least someone on the side, of those who are "marching on". There also seems that there may be a seventh syllable after the last word, which sounds like "me", and the "s" at the beginning of "survive" is also present at the end of "please", so this may be a word which rhymes with "survive" but does not begin with "s", such as "revive". A futher elaboration on this may conclude the line to be something similar to "(Children) said 'please revive me'". In the context of the Flood, assuming that the speaker would be the Gravemind, it could see the reanimating of dead life forms as "reviving" his "children".
The third line: I can't imagine a native English speaker (which the speaker seems to be) pronouncing "Earth" like "arth", so it sounds more like "are" to me, and, although it may be the reverb affecting how the words transition, the preceeding "the" sounds more like "they". Bearing in mind that, in this interpretation, the "th" sound from "Earth" would be moved to the next word, "will" sounds more like "fuel" and "fall" sounds something like "farms" - this may be something completely different; "fuel farms" doesn't make sense in any context, unless the speaker is associated with the Flood, in which case life forms that the Flood can infect could possibly be seen as "fuel farms", but this would still be very strange wording - an interesting note is that there appears to be an extra consonant after this word, but I cannot figure out what it is or what it would make the word; my best estimate would be "faults", which would make "fuel" into something like "few", making the first few words "they are (a) few faults". Finally, moving the "s" from "strike" to make "farms" causes "strike together" to sound more like "tied together", so the speaker could be saying that "they are (something) tied together", be it "tied together" in a literal sense, such as organically (which is unlikely), or figuratively, such as the spirituality of the Covenant or the camaraderie of the UNSC. In defence of the original interpretation, however, the last two words do sound equally like "strike together" and "tied together".
The fourth line: This seems to be accurate, save for a few words: the current transcript seems to lack a syllable directly after "so", and the pronunciation of the words "all" and "of" do not seem to match those words. Additionally, the word transcribed as "forth" seems to lack the "th" sound at the end and sounds closer to "foe". The "extra" syllable sounds like it might be "my", and the addition of this word causes the line to match the tempo and meter of the previous lines. The word transcribed as "all" appears to sound more like "know", and "of" sounds much more like "my", which would make the line "So my foe shall know my life". Alternatively, "know" may be a different verb - that is the hardest word in any line to interpret - and "my" sounds like it could also be "by", in which case the line would be "So my foe shall (something) by life", although that is much harder to place into a context.
I propose that the message in its entirety is closer to this:
Side-by-side we march as one,
(Children) said "please revive me",
They are (few faults) tied together,
So my foe shall (know my) life.
Of note is that this interpretation would make all lines (save for the third) spoken in heptameter, which is how the Gravemind is said to speak. This may mean that the speaker could be the Gravemind or this could be a coincidence, possibly intended simply as an entirely seperate reference to the number seven.
Or, of course, I could have just entirely missinterpreted the lines and be completely wrong.
I apologise for an entire essay on such a meager topic, but I like to explain these things as thoroughly as I can. Take 1ne 02:52, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Halo 2 Anniversary - Cryptic Whisper??!!
Halo 2 Anniversary features a similar reversed soundtrack.
My colleagues have been able to decipher the message and have posted it on SoundCloud and Youtube.
In the descriptions, my friend and I have supplied the viewer with the message that we interpreted.
Please, view it, the community is largely unaware of this easter egg in the remastered Halo 2.