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  • Karl-591
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    18:30, August 14, 2018

    I've always really liked the Marines in Halo. I think they're really awesome. Even though they have a bad rep for their AI i've never encountered to many team killing scenarios. (except in Halo 4, the AI was terrible). I played Halo 3 solo on legendary and i don't think I could have done it without them, they really helped. (I'd like to note that the AI is better on higher difficulties). To me it seems that the marines are usually forgetten and the Spartans/ODST's get all the credit. If you think about it in the lore the marines did most of the fighting against the covenant. It seems the Marines are under-rated. What do you guys think? Does anyone besides me like the marines?

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    • Yes, yes I like them, but I like odsts more.

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    • (I forgot to sign in when i wrote this forum post). I think everyone likes ODST's more. I do actually like the ODST's more. ODST's are basically more elite versions marines. But it seems that everyone forget's about the marines. Compared to the Spartans and ODST's the marines did the most fighting in the war. It just seems like they're forgetten about. I just feel they deserve some credit at least. 

      On a side note. I wish the AI wasn't so bad for the marines. Sorta gives them a bad rep.

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    • And apparently the marines are looked down on by SPARTAN IVs, Palmer especially.

      Funny how in terms of gameplay, SPARTAN IVs are just marines with shielding.

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    • yep

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    • Special Operations Commander wrote:
      And apparently the marines are looked down on by SPARTAN IVs, Palmer especially.

      Funny how in terms of gameplay, SPARTAN IVs are just marines with shielding.

      Ironically the Marines actually have superior AI than the IV's. Gamecheat sorta proved it. It's ironic that Palmer looks down on marines since she made that comment in Iniation about how "Spartans stomp around the battlefield make the rest of us feel inadequate" (Or something like that). Just one of the many reasons I dislike Palmer.

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    • She's just jellouise.


      And I spelled it that way because I was trying to get my spell check to guess correctly then gave up.

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    • JV11 wrote:
      Special Operations Commander wrote:
      And apparently the marines are looked down on by SPARTAN IVs, Palmer especially.

      Funny how in terms of gameplay, SPARTAN IVs are just marines with shielding.

      Ironically the Marines actually have superior AI than the IV's. Gamecheat sorta proved it. It's ironic that Palmer looks down on marines since she made that comment in Iniation about how "Spartans stomp around the battlefield make the rest of us feel inadequate" (Or something like that). Just one of the many reasons I dislike Palmer.

      Right. During one of his "AI Free-for-Alls" a SPARTAN IV engaged a marine in melee combat.

      And lost.

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    • Special Operations Commander wrote:

      JV11 wrote:
      Special Operations Commander wrote:
      And apparently the marines are looked down on by SPARTAN IVs, Palmer especially.

      Funny how in terms of gameplay, SPARTAN IVs are just marines with shielding.

      Ironically the Marines actually have superior AI than the IV's. Gamecheat sorta proved it. It's ironic that Palmer looks down on marines since she made that comment in Iniation about how "Spartans stomp around the battlefield make the rest of us feel inadequate" (Or something like that). Just one of the many reasons I dislike Palmer.

      Right. During one of his "AI Free-for-Alls" a SPARTAN IV engaged a marine in melee combat.

      And lost.

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Take that 34ungii and your stupid Spartan 4's! :P Yah, beaten by the things that lose to grunts, how dose that make you feel!??!!!

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    • Lord of the STARS wrote:

      Special Operations Commander wrote:

      JV11 wrote:
      Special Operations Commander wrote:
      And apparently the marines are looked down on by SPARTAN IVs, Palmer especially.

      Funny how in terms of gameplay, SPARTAN IVs are just marines with shielding.

      Ironically the Marines actually have superior AI than the IV's. Gamecheat sorta proved it. It's ironic that Palmer looks down on marines since she made that comment in Iniation about how "Spartans stomp around the battlefield make the rest of us feel inadequate" (Or something like that). Just one of the many reasons I dislike Palmer.
      Right. During one of his "AI Free-for-Alls" a SPARTAN IV engaged a marine in melee combat.

      And lost.

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Take that 34ungii and your stupid Spartan 4's! :P Yah, beaten by the things that lose to grunts, how dose that make you feel!??!!!

      Atleast the Unggoy fight effectively in numbers.

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    • That's why unggoy belong in numbers, at least halo 1 through reach marines out fight unggoy.

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    • Lord of the STARS wrote:
      That's why unggoy belong in numbers, at least halo 1 through reach marines out fight unggoy.

      Marines have always been trained soldiers (Atleast in Halo: CE, 2, and 3.) But their AI is deteriorating in skill apparently and are turning into tall Grunts. I hope 343 changes this.

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    • Indeed.

      Marine: "Go go go, give me some covering fire."

      Another: *musical death cry*

      Marine: "We lost charly"

      A 23rd marine: "Man we are really getting out butts kicked today, wonder why?"

      5th marine: "Weal you know, when you have been in a war for 25 years with each passing year the solders of your contry get less and less skilled for fighting the war as time goes by, and with natural selection the strong are sorted out and the weak get more horny."

      12th marine: "Then why the hell an't that happening to the covenant also?" *gets killed by a plasma grenade*

      7th marine: "I don't know delta maybe the laws of the universe don't apply to the cov.... delta??? DELTA???? Oh my GOD WE Lost delta!!!!"

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    • Special Operations Commander wrote:
      Lord of the STARS wrote:
      That's why unggoy belong in numbers, at least halo 1 through reach marines out fight unggoy.
      Marines have always been trained soldiers (Atleast in Halo: CE, 2, and 3.) But their AI is deteriorating in skill apparently and are turning into tall Grunts. I hope 343 changes this.

      Maybe while they're at fixing the AI they can change the way they look. I can't stand the White, Green and Pink... errr lightish red colors they got going on. Maybe ditch the Bullet proof vests too. Makes no sense at all for them to wearing that.

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    • JV11 wrote:
      Special Operations Commander wrote:
      Lord of the STARS wrote:
      That's why unggoy belong in numbers, at least halo 1 through reach marines out fight unggoy.
      Marines have always been trained soldiers (Atleast in Halo: CE, 2, and 3.) But their AI is deteriorating in skill apparently and are turning into tall Grunts. I hope 343 changes this.
      Maybe while they're at fixing the AI they can change the way they look. I can't stand the White, Green and Pink... errr lightish red colors they got going on. Maybe ditch the Bullet proof vests too. Makes no sense at all for them to wearing that.

      There's a lot of things about the marines that they can improve on.

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    • JV11 wrote:

      Special Operations Commander wrote:
      Lord of the STARS wrote:
      That's why unggoy belong in numbers, at least halo 1 through reach marines out fight unggoy.
      Marines have always been trained soldiers (Atleast in Halo: CE, 2, and 3.) But their AI is deteriorating in skill apparently and are turning into tall Grunts. I hope 343 changes this.

      Maybe while they're at fixing the AI they can change the way they look. I can't stand the White, Green and Pink... errr lightish red colors they got going on. Maybe ditch the Bullet proof vests too. Makes no sense at all for them to wearing that.

      Marine: "it is 100% copper chainmail with inner and outer layers of 100% purified made in U.R.N.A. Kevlar! Everyone knows that's plasma proof.... hey ah cut it out stop shooting me with aaahh it burns ahhhhh!" HAHAHAHAHAHA

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    • Marines can easily kill elites. All it takes is 3 to kill any minor or major. They also have grenades and lets not forget how weak a minor or major's shields really are. In gameplay one round of 1 weapon will take them out not to mention from multiple marines at once. Marines with shot guns and snipers would make short work of any sangheili even ultras or zealots. Oh and don't let those marines get their hands on needlers from dead uggnoy.

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    • General B.H. wrote:
      Marines can easily kill elites. All it takes is 3 to kill any minor or major. They also have grenades and lets not forget how weak a minor or major's shields really are. In gameplay one round of 1 weapon will take them out not to mention from multiple marines at once. Marines with shot guns and snipers would make short work of any sangheili even ultras or zealots. Oh and don't let those marines get their hands on needlers from dead uggnoy.

      As long as this is in the Halo 2 era (And Normal and below) Marines can give Sangheili a challenge. If only those Marines stuck around.

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    • Special Operations Commander wrote:
      General B.H. wrote:
      Marines can easily kill elites. All it takes is 3 to kill any minor or major. They also have grenades and lets not forget how weak a minor or major's shields really are. In gameplay one round of 1 weapon will take them out not to mention from multiple marines at once. Marines with shot guns and snipers would make short work of any sangheili even ultras or zealots. Oh and don't let those marines get their hands on needlers from dead uggnoy.
      As long as this is in the Halo 2 era (And Normal and below) Marines can give Sangheili a challenge. If only those Marines stuck around.

      I was going to say the Halo 3 marines were pretty great but there wasn't any elites in Halo 3 (At least enemy elites). I'm not sure why but the AI after Halo 3:ODST the Ai got terrible. Reach's AI was awful and don't even get me started on Halo 4's AI. 

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    • Either way in all games they always make me have to choose between keeping them alive and keeping me alive.

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    • JV11 wrote:
      Special Operations Commander wrote:
      Lord of the STARS wrote:
      That's why unggoy belong in numbers, at least halo 1 through reach marines out fight unggoy.
      Marines have always been trained soldiers (Atleast in Halo: CE, 2, and 3.) But their AI is deteriorating in skill apparently and are turning into tall Grunts. I hope 343 changes this.
      Maybe while they're at fixing the AI they can change the way they look. I can't stand the White, Green and Pink... errr lightish red colors they got going on. Maybe ditch the Bullet proof vests too. Makes no sense at all for them to wearing that.

      In halo 2 and 3 the jackals AI was about equal to grunts. On the other hand they had decent ai in halo ce.

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    • Don't anyone dare think the way Kig-yar fight in the video games is canon. Yes I know they only fight about like new solders with only 3 months of training it the books, but that's mostly because they did not actually care about the cause during the human covenant war, running away instead of dying fighting happened because they did not see it as worth their lives, but that's not why the way they fight in the games should be considered canon.

      Its 2 reasons, 1, nobody is only as good in battle as a computer a.i. not even a 7 year old, and 2, in canon if you try to take on Kig-yar in close quarters, then assuming you lose they will eat you, but in the video games they have no animation for melee combat, but their combat programing dose include trying to get close enough for the melee action they don't have.

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    • Lord of the STARS wrote:
      Don't anyone dare think the way Kig-yar fight in the video games is canon. Yes I know they only fight about like new solders with only 3 months of training it the books, but that's mostly because they did not actually care about the cause during the human covenant war, running away instead of dying fighting happened because they did not see it as worth their lives, but that's not why the way they fight in the games should be considered canon.

      Its 2 reasons, 1, nobody is only as good in battle as a computer a.i. not even a 7 year old, and 2, in canon if you try to take on Kig-yar in close quarters, then assuming you lose they will eat you, but in the video games they have no animation for melee combat, but their combat programing dose include trying to get close enough for the melee action they don't have.

      none of the AI are anything like they are in canon. Elites and brutes would be smarter, grunts would be a little better, Jackals would be totally different, hunters would be tougher. Halo would be totally different if it was close to canon. 

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    • Exactly :) great comment.

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    • Also, if the Marines were closer to how they are in canon they would be pretty OP in campaign. I remember hearing the only reason the AI is crappy is because if they were OP then we wouldn't have to do the majority of the fighting (Which is the whole point of the game) and we wouldn't feel like we were needed in the universe. 

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    • Yah its true your right, they are tactical, use what every they can with ingenuity and cunning, almost as if they where trained at some kind of military survival school. They know how to even do something you can only kinda do in halo reach by using a fork lift, fortifying position. They actually do fight better then Kig-yar in canon, usually, but that's only because the covenant did not care about them enough to actually prepare them for battle, infact Kig-yar shields where more often used to play defense for other members of the covenant then they where for personal defense. Think of them like, personal hired throw away body guards. But marines after killing a Kig-yar would take their shields, after killing a sangheili would take their swords, and add both to their cover so that anything coming at them will have to shoot through the shields and impale them selves on swords up close. Marines in canon can mop the floors with in game marines, and marines in game only have such high health to make up for it. They know what their doing in canon.

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    • JV11 wrote:
      Special Operations Commander wrote:
      General B.H. wrote:
      Marines can easily kill elites. All it takes is 3 to kill any minor or major. They also have grenades and lets not forget how weak a minor or major's shields really are. In gameplay one round of 1 weapon will take them out not to mention from multiple marines at once. Marines with shot guns and snipers would make short work of any sangheili even ultras or zealots. Oh and don't let those marines get their hands on needlers from dead uggnoy.
      As long as this is in the Halo 2 era (And Normal and below) Marines can give Sangheili a challenge. If only those Marines stuck around.
      I was going to say the Halo 3 marines were pretty great but there wasn't any elites in Halo 3 (At least enemy elites). I'm not sure why but the AI after Halo 3:ODST the Ai got terrible. Reach's AI was awful and don't even get me started on Halo 4's AI. 
      • Gets JV11 started*

      Why?

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    • Agent Locke wrote:
      JV11 wrote:
      Special Operations Commander wrote:
      General B.H. wrote:
      Marines can easily kill elites. All it takes is 3 to kill any minor or major. They also have grenades and lets not forget how weak a minor or major's shields really are. In gameplay one round of 1 weapon will take them out not to mention from multiple marines at once. Marines with shot guns and snipers would make short work of any sangheili even ultras or zealots. Oh and don't let those marines get their hands on needlers from dead uggnoy.
      As long as this is in the Halo 2 era (And Normal and below) Marines can give Sangheili a challenge. If only those Marines stuck around.
      I was going to say the Halo 3 marines were pretty great but there wasn't any elites in Halo 3 (At least enemy elites). I'm not sure why but the AI after Halo 3:ODST the Ai got terrible. Reach's AI was awful and don't even get me started on Halo 4's AI. 
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      Why?

      They shoot at dead bodies instead of the actual enemies. They drive slower than a rock in the middle of the desert, They seem to shoot me more than usual. They seem to have the aim of a stormtrooper and. Sometimes they run in circles and spin around. And even though this has nothing to do with the AI, they look stupid while being stupid. /end rant

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    • The 3 Marines were great.

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    • Vessel Of War wrote:
      The 3 Marines were great.

      They've always been my favorite. They were more advanced than the Halo 2, and they looked pretty awesome IMO. 

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    • You where on your own during most of odst, and I mean that literally. And when you weren't it was mostly immortal n.p.c.'s

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    • Vessel Of War wrote:
      The 3 Marines were great.

      They are so good, on the level The Ark I give them my sniper rifles and rocket launcher. It's great, seeing the Squad Leader driving a Prowler, with two snipers and a turret. The Warthog is driven by me, with two Marines, one of which has a rocket launcher.

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    • Vessel Of War wrote:

      They are so good, on the level The Ark I give them my sniper rifles and rocket launcher. It's great, seeing the Squad Leader driving a Prowler, with two snipers and a turret. The Warthog is driven by me, with two Marines, one of which has a rocket launcher.

      I like to drive the Warthog with the squad leader and another ODST (with a rocket launcher), and give the Prowlers to the remaining Marines and ODSTs.

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    • Be carful with giving vehicle passengers a rocket launcher, I often drive to close to something and the explosion of a rocket makes a few marines fall off.

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    • Most recently, I tried driving a Warthog with the Marines, and having two Mongooses with the ODSTs and snipers. When you get to the first structure, switch their snipers for Fuel Rod Guns. It worked.


      Anyone else revert whenever a Marine, ODST or Elite ally dies?

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    • Vessel Of War wrote:

      Anyone else revert whenever a Marine, ODST or Elite ally dies?

      I only do that with Marines and ODSTs.

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    • If you give a passenger a weapon that dose a high enough damage they will take a seat and use that weapon instead of getting on the turret.

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    • I do it when I'm the Arbiter, and on The Covenant. It must look weird: counting the Elites and realising "Gasp! There's only one Minor!"

      Also, when my Hornets die.

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    • What I really like to do is drive around on the Firefight map Installation 04 with two ODSTs, one of which has a rocket launcher.

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    • Lord of the STARS wrote:
      If you give a passenger a weapon that dose a high enough damage they will take a seat and use that weapon instead of getting on the turret.

      That's just so great. It's great seeing the sniper ODST (the one nearer the turret) move to the gunner seat, so poor assault rifle ODST can gun.

      Does anyone else give their ODSTs Spartan Lasers?

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    • In halo a head shot is a instant kill, but if you only shoot a leg, their not crippled, if you shoot below the belt, no blood curdling scream, if you shoot the hand, no dropping weapon, shoot the arm, no crippling, shoot the heart, nothing happens.

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    • Vessel Of War wrote:


      Does anyone else give their ODSTs Spartan Lasers?

      yes.

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    • Commando Trooper wrote:
      Vessel Of War wrote:

      Anyone else revert whenever a Marine, ODST or Elite ally dies?

      I only do that with Marines and ODSTs.

      I'm just glad someone else does.

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    • Vessel Of War wrote:
      Lord of the STARS wrote:
      If you give a passenger a weapon that dose a high enough damage they will take a seat and use that weapon instead of getting on the turret.
      That's just so great. It's great seeing the sniper ODST (the one nearer the turret) move to the gunner seat, so poor assault rifle ODST can gun.

      Does anyone else give their ODSTs Spartan Lasers?

      On The Ark, I'll have the same setup as you, plus any other troopers in any ghosts I can find.

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    • On Legendary on "The Covenant" I give my ODST the Splazer after I destroy the Air wraith and the turrets. Then get him in the side seat of the hog and have him destroy all the wraiths and the prowlers. Then before I enter the structure I grab the splazer and use it to kill the chieftan in one shot. That's my strategy.

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    • I give my passenger the Splazer, then I get the troop hog from the first tower and give them all splazers and fuel rod guns. Making sure one of each gets on my hornet. Makes going through the banshee swarm much easier on legendary.

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    • Why is it when I play halo and they shoot fule rod cannon or rpg at me and I have no room to dodge it, if I shoot the fule rod or rocket it don't intercept it? it works in real life.

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    • It does work in Halo. It's just too hard to hit the rocket.

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    • But when I hit the rocket it don't work, I can understand why it don't work on plasma mortar I just sometimes try on it anyway out of instinct, but it don't work for me on fule rods or rockets.

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    • It's possible to snipe a rocket in reach, but it takes considerable skill.

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    • Dinosaur1995 wrote:
      It's possible to snipe a rocket in reach, but it takes considerable skill.

      Something I've done. Simple, really. You just need a really high frame rate to make it seem like slow-mo, and you can blast it out of the air. Fuel rods are easier, so if I have to that's what I'll do. Rockets, though. Damn.

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    • another way to do it is to aim line to line ----- -----

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    • Agent Locke wrote:

      Dinosaur1995 wrote:
      It's possible to snipe a rocket in reach, but it takes considerable skill.

      Something I've done. Simple, really. You just need a really high frame rate to make it seem like slow-mo, and you can blast it out of the air. Fuel rods are easier, so if I have to that's what I'll do. Rockets, though. Damn.

      I can do it without rendering tricks.

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    • Meh.

      Random reticules I made:

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      >+<

      (+)

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      <'>

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      > <

      [+]

      [_+_]

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      (*)

      (_*_)

      [_*_]

      [_-*-_] (My favorite)

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    • Dinosaur1995 wrote:

      Agent Locke wrote:

      Dinosaur1995 wrote:
      It's possible to snipe a rocket in reach, but it takes considerable skill.
      Something I've done. Simple, really. You just need a really high frame rate to make it seem like slow-mo, and you can blast it out of the air. Fuel rods are easier, so if I have to that's what I'll do. Rockets, though. Damn.
      I can do it without rendering tricks.

      Yeah, but it takes serious correction for speed. I don't like doing that w/out a render trick.

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    • Where's the fun in that?

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    • Vessel Of War wrote:

      Does anyone else give their ODSTs Spartan Lasers?

      I never do that. They seem to miss almost every shot.

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    • sarah palmer: "Once again 15 of we Spartans have wiped out a covenant camp 2 days faster then 700 marines."

      Marine: "Not now sarah I'm busy shooting this dead grunt, be done in 2 days."

      2cond marine: "Where the hell dose she get these crazy ideas we wouldn't have performed as well as Spartan 4's do in 2 hours even in 2 days?"

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    • Lord of the STARS wrote:
      sarah palmer: "Once again 15 of we Spartans have wiped out a covenant camp 2 days faster then 700 marines."

      Marine: "Not now sarah I'm busy shooting this dead grunt, be done in 2 days."

      2cond marine: "Where the hell dose she get these crazy ideas we wouldn't have performed as well as Spartan 4's do in 2 hours even in 2 days?"

      Haha so true. I love how Palmer acts like she's the superior soldier when all she is an ODST on steroids. You'd think she'd be more humble since she used to be an ODST, she even said that Spartans stomp around the field making everyone else look bad. Just one of the many reason I hate Palmer as a character. 

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    • Agent Locke wrote:

      >+<

      I like this.

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    • Lord of the STARS wrote: sarah palmer: "Once again 15 of we Spartans have wiped out a covenant camp 2 days faster then 700 marines."

      Marine: "Not now sarah I'm busy shooting this dead grunt, be done in 2 days."

      2cond marine: "Where the hell dose she get these crazy ideas we wouldn't have performed as well as Spartan 4's do in 2 hours even in 2 days?"

      Way too accurate to an ingame event.

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    • Don't see what you guys mean by Halo 3 Marines being awesome. Was playing Halo 3 LASO, and in the 16 hours it took me to beat it, I was killed by Marines, more than I was Covenant. Most notably, on The Ark. Was on a ridge, shooting Rockets at far off vehicles, then I get splattered by a Marine filled Prowler. Restart, get there, die again, by the same damn situation. Also happened in The Storm with a Marine and the Rocket Launcher, during the Scarab fight. Not fun.

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    • Sometimes when you have nothing to get but the cheap junk, you go gaga for the thing you finally find on inventory that is the least cheap and least junk of them all.

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    • Project Predacon wrote: Don't see what you guys mean by Halo 3 Marines being awesome. Was playing Halo 3 LASO, and in the 16 hours it took me to beat it, I was killed by Marines, more than I was Covenant. Most notably, on The Ark. Was on a ridge, shooting Rockets at far off vehicles, then I get splattered by a Marine filled Prowler. Restart, get there, die again, by the same damn situation. Also happened in The Storm with a Marine and the Rocket Launcher, during the Scarab fight. Not fun.

      How often do you play LASO?

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    • Not often. I'm doing it for the nameplates in the MCC. :3

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    • Oh, I just do it for the fun of it! :p

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    • Project Predacon wrote:
      Don't see what you guys mean by Halo 3 Marines being awesome. Was playing Halo 3 LASO, and in the 16 hours it took me to beat it, I was killed by Marines, more than I was Covenant. Most notably, on The Ark. Was on a ridge, shooting Rockets at far off vehicles, then I get splattered by a Marine filled Prowler. Restart, get there, die again, by the same damn situation. Also happened in The Storm with a Marine and the Rocket Launcher, during the Scarab fight. Not fun.

      They have their moments. I've been teamkilled by them less than I have compared to other games. One time in Halo 4 my shields were down on legendary and a marine shooting at a dead body ended up shooting me and I died right there on the spot. I've never played Halo 3 LASO but I did solo it on legendary and the marines were life savers. I don't think I could have gotten through some parts without them. 

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    • With my third run-through of ODST's campaign, this time in LSSO (Legendary Some Skulls On (namely famine, iron and something else)), I found Uplift Reserve quite difficult: the Marines with Spartan Lasers decided that shooting at a Grunt 100m away instead of the Wraith was more important. Eventually I kept switching, destroying a Wraith and killing Chieftains with my Laser, then letting Rocket Marine and the turret finish the rest.

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    • Marine: "Dude, should we take out that wraith?" another marine: "No way man, theirs so totally a grunt right their!"

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    • "Maybe when the Grunt is dead, we should spend five minutes shooting it. You know, to make sure it stays dead."

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    • "Ooooh noooo I should have listened to you, he's getting up!" shouted another.

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    • "Don't worry, it's Super Player come to help us!"

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    • Or destroy.

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    • I wonder if Marines have ever been killed because they wasted all of their ammunition firing at corpses.

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    • they don't run out.

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    • Canonically, I mean. Or maybe the "And stay dead!" isn't canon.

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    • Vessel Of War wrote:
      Canonically, I mean. Or maybe the "And stay dead!" isn't canon.

      Canon marines aren't that dumb.

      Right?

      Someone back me up on this.

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    • Agent Locke wrote:
      Vessel Of War wrote:
      Canonically, I mean. Or maybe the "And stay dead!" isn't canon.
      Canon marines aren't that dumb.

      Right?

      Someone back me up on this.

      I got your back. It's true, the marines aren't dumb in canon. From what I've read/heard they were actually competant soldiers. Like I've said before, It's a shame that the games made them so stupid. Everywhere I go I just see people talking about Spartans and ODST's and it's almost like no one adnowledges the marines even exist. Sorta makes me feel bad for the poor guys. They do most of the fighting and everyone else gets the credit.

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    • They have figured out how to use Kig-yar point defense gauntlet shields, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9606y2n4J4 now theirs no hope for any of us! :(

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    • Lord of the STARS wrote:
      They have figured out how to use Kig-yar point defense gauntlet shields, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9606y2n4J4 now theirs no hope for any of us! :(

      Eh, I'm not impressed. Now if you could Duel weild the point-defence gauntlets then I'd be impressed.

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    • 67.174.45.26 wrote:
      I've always really liked the Marines in Halo. I think they're really awesome. Even though they have a bad rep for their AI i've never encountered to many team killing scenarios. (except in Halo 4, the AI was terrible). I played Halo 3 solo on legendary and i don't think I could have done it without them, they really helped. (I'd like to note that the AI is better on higher difficulties). To me it seems that the marines are usually forgetten and the Spartans/ODST's get all the credit. If you think about it in the lore the marines did most of the fighting against the covenant. It seems the Marines are under-rated. What do you guys think? Does anyone besides me like the marines?
      1. MarineLivesMatter
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    • Weal they aren't navy men, and they aren't army men, in truth what defines them as marines is that they are somewhere in-between.

      When boarding a craft rather then shoot to sink its not navy men who do the fighting, they load the ships with marines. The navy men are use to simply working the ship.

      When landing troops its most likely marines, they are deployed first because being deployed is their job. The army usually comes second to actually hold the ground the marines have obtained.

      But now they are making a few hundred Spartan 4's per day, soon Spartans just may be the only human solders at all.

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    • what i wanted for the entire halo series is a marine as a major character and alive but  there are 3 or 4 marines that are minor characters thoughout the halo series which a dislike because they have so much potiental for being a major character and surived all 5 games and i want one of them to be a major character in halo 6 like sgt stacker

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    • You do realize the whole point in halo is "Heeey look at all these additional character possibilities that you don't get to plas aaaas. Nenner nenner neeennnerr!"

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    • ikr at least bring back the marines that were in halo 2 and 3 and then i will be happy

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    • At least they learned how to do team command thingy, but they suck at it. Oh well, maby some ship to ship combat will cheer you up.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEjAfJs0hWs

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    • And yes, sea video games do exist, their just extremely rare.

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    • 67.174.45.26 wrote: I've always really liked the Marines in Halo. I think they're really awesome. Even though they have a bad rep for their AI i've never encountered to many team killing scenarios. (except in Halo 4, the AI was terrible). I played Halo 3 solo on legendary and i don't think I could have done it without them, they really helped. (I'd like to note that the AI is better on higher difficulties). To me it seems that the marines are usually forgetten and the Spartans/ODST's get all the credit. If you think about it in the lore the marines did most of the fighting against the covenant. It seems the Marines are under-rated. What do you guys think? Does anyone besides me like the marines?

      I LOVE DA MARIENS THEY MAKE WARTHOGS USEFUL

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